Fan The Flames

No way, people ultimately care more about economic security and the vote for Brexit and Boris illustrates that. Globalisation, the shrinking of tradition work sectors, casualisation of work, pay falling behind and European immigration has created insecurity added to the mix is rising house prices, rip off landlords and cost of further education. The country has had wave after wave of immigration; Irish, Caribbean, Indian subcontinent, African, Eastern European and we have reluctantly accepted them all until the Eastern European influx. This was because the others were unskilled and did jobs that didn't threaten the home population, they were employed in jobs people didn't want to do, they also found it difficult to get hired by home companies. Then the Eastern Europeans came with more skills, a good work ethic and a skin colour that was more palatable. It's not because of a few Polish shops or sauerkraut in Morrisons. We don't have cultural insecurities, we love curry houses, Chinese and kebabs, our kids listen to urban black music, one of the big nights out is Paddy's day, we don't give a **** about St Georges day, we had our hair cut for years by Italians, Turks and Kurds, we use Americanism in our language. There are loads of stuff that we have just assimilated into our lives. Normally after austerity people vote for change and in this instance Boris offered that, although he is from the same party as those in charge for a difficult decade because this was preferred to the other change offered by Corbyn. People were fearful of their spending plans, perceived taxation but more importantly their houses. There was a fear that Corbyn was coming for our houses, amougst all the **** at least we have the equity we have built up, at least we have something for a rainy day or to leave our children. There was nothing cultural about this vote. Our lives are changing but the cultural stuff is at the fringe of our lives, it's the economic stuff that's at the core and this is what people have reacted too. To say otherwise is ideological nonsense.

There's grotesque people on both side eh Batman.

Listening to the radio the other day, during various news articles over the day; one on the queens speech, one on infrastructure, one on reorganising the civil service and one on education, Dominic Cummings views on each were talked about. Who exactly is running the country?

Didn't David Hurst trip over a rock in the training ground and he never really played again.

And achieved whilst being a member of the EU, you know the institution that is meant to be holding us back.

Can you really be a winner if you subtly change someones name to a 'comic' version like Lib Dumbs, Kier Smarmy only losers like Les Bender does this.

No one in the hostory of the whole world has ever said that before, no one, that's why you are a comic genius.

You're **** at this aren't you.

Arsenal were bound to swerve sticking by Ozil, afterall they got £30m from Rwanda for shirt sponsorship. A country with an authoritarian 'dictator'.

Completely different. The Tories are addicted to power it's in their DNA, they see themselves as the party of government. They will take a deteat on the chin, walk away and tweak their offer to suit the electorate to get back into government. This left wing of the Labour Party is addicted to idoelogy, they see themselves as the party of the people and they see false honour in sticking by their principles. A defeat hits them badly and all they can do is scrabble around for fake reasons why their lost. Blind to the fact that your offer has to attractive to the electorate, and even more blind to the fact, as Jack Straw says that if you want to transform you have to be in power. An opportunity has been missed and the blame lies squarely at the door of Corbyn, Lansman and McCluskey.

Thats not what he said at all was it. It is interesting that people who are fed up with the current situation, who would in past elections voted for change, instead voted for the incumbent government. The logic in the is interesting and will be something that political analysts will be looking into. To me it says a lot about how poor the alternative was and how fed up people were with the stale mate in parliament.

Is the 'everyone gets a medal' thing to blame for EDL vile as well. There is vile on both sides, I thought you of all people would understand that. Reading the responses under the clip and it seems she is hated for her class as much as her views, so identity politics is alive and kicking on both sides of the argument. Who would have thought it.

He also said that Labour needs to educate the electorate. So instead of looking for policies to fit the people he wants the people to fit his policies. Out of touch.

That's completely over the top, just like Goves disjusting speech today.

Go Jeremy Corbyn, go Jeremy Corbyn, go Jeremy Corbyn, go Jeremy Corbyn

The burka is wrong as far as I'm concerned. But he was clearly being demeaning on purpose, a little nod to the right wing. The tories have been doing it for years; their statements used to be riskier, then they'd get called out and apologise. Nowadays they have to be 'intolerant' to this behaviour their statements are now coded signals, just ambiguous enough so the right wing fan boys can argue it's case. As witnessed on here.

I think you are driving on the wrong side of the road on this one. This is an election and all the candidates including the PM put themselves up to be scrutinised by journalists and the public. This is the standard election process, I really cant see why anyone has any issue with this and to say that he was ambushed when he was out on the campaign trail is laughable. It wasn't cheap journalism, it was using a symbol that represented the underfunding of hospitals and he wasn't asking about the specific case he wanted a general answer from the current PM. BJ could have said anything, he could have trotted out one of the many practised NHS lines and no one would have been talking about it anymore. But it's his reaction that everybody is talking about, of course he wasn't stealing the phone he was trying to control the situation in his typical arrogant eton schooled manner.

Alan Johnson was on the radio the other day and said the left of the party were always telling them that winning an election was easy all you had to do was give the working class people 'stuff' and this gives you an insight into the thinking of the Corbyn machine. They have narrowed down their view but hope that their santa's sack will do the trick. But the reality is you need to build a broader consensus to win. I hope Friday is thd start of a more sensible approach from the Labour party.

Hastings and Rye has form for women from the nasty party, it was the seat of the liar Amber Rudd. She is standing down and only had a majority in the low hundreds, this should be a straight shoot out between the Tories and Labour.

Are people really still doing this triggered thing. You wally.

I didn't miss those bits or this bit 'I can't be bothered to look in greater detail to find more', but you can be bothered to shout marxist and extremist. Like I said you shout a lot but are a self confessed know **** all.

Are they really wearing what they want though.

And free nursery places are the only reasons why he thinks Corbyns polices are extreme. I think we can safely put Hypochondriac in the 'shouts a lot but knows **** all' camp.

This is the bit I find most fascinating. Why is it? Is it to prove what free thinkets they are, whilst running around the internet posting nuggets feed to them by other right wing nutters.

He pulled his own deal from parliament because he didn't like the debate timetable.