Fan The Flames

This thread is racing away, I'm in the office and can't keep up, there's only so many times you can go to the toilet. So I don't know if this has been posted already, Paul Hart, NJs long time mentor has just left Luton. Is he on his way here?

Lyanco, but he didn't know what side he was on.

Nathan Jones, the Liz Truss of the Premier League.

The club want to play 5 at the back, Ralph tried it and then abandoned it then was sacked. NJ is trying to shoehorn it in where ever he can. You can see why people think he is only doing it because they want him to.

Would rather have had Dyche than Jones.

Also the initial anti-Poch feeling was as much about being loyal to Adkins, who took us up, as it was being anti-Poch. And as you say it soon dissipated once people saw what we had got.

Playing a back 5 in the semi final second leg, just because the team must learn an alternative way to play, is inexcusable.

At the beginning Sky was going on about Anthony Gordon being wide eyed and in awe, it was nauseating and completely ignored the fact that Gordon is naturally goggled eyed.

If fans opinion mean jot, why are you constantly on here scolding others for being negative. People regard the manager to be deficient and want to talk about it, they also want to discuss formations and players, it's what being a fan is about for some. Now you want to be positive and passive and that's you choice. Plenty think the best way to stay up is to get rid of NJ and you think the best way is to roar the team on. We aren't going to agree on this point, I'm afraid. Now if you want people to agree with you, forcing them won't work, you need a persuasive agrument.

Clubs rarely pay in full. That's why the Gordon to Newcastle was of interest because Newcastle were prepared to pay in full.

Surely you would have just driven there in your baby Bentley.

We have been drifting since Katherine Liebherr decided to not fund the club anymore, then the underfunded Gao years and now the cock up SR reign. People are only moaning on a message board, they are not demonstrating or anything.

What's entitled about it. What we do have is a lot of fans telling other fans how to be a better fan.

It not an over analysis to want a very highly paid manager to concentrate on his job rather than unhelpfully adding to the noise. There is no one getting offended on behalf of others, that's just in your head. And there is no equivalence between the manager's and fan's behaviour, the bar is set at completely different heights for both of them and everyone knows that.

But this isn't about him, this is about SFC. He is paid millions to park his ego and get on with his job of keeping SFC in the Premier League. If people claim that the voices of discontent don't help the team then why in earth is NJ bothering with it. There is an element of NJ self-promotion instead of just getting on with the job. He was apparently the same at Stoke and not learning from previous mistakes isn't a good sign.

You can't talk mate, you think there's no such thing a a more favourable fixture. And you explanation for this is, wait for it, some fixtures that may seem favourable at the beginning of the season may not actually be favourable when we come to play them and some fixtures that aren't seen as favourable at the beginning of the season may be favourable when we come to play them, but can't actually be favourable, beacuse there is no such thing. Grade A nonsense.

Well that is a completely different thing and not what he said. Of course people know how the legue cup semi-final works. Maybe there were a few that wanted us to push for a goal. But only a small minority and for some of those urging GB to go long, it would be more about being nervous of us playing it short and getting caught, than it was about us going for a goal. NJ just doesn't need to confront these fan sentiments in his post match interviews, and if asked he should just trot out some non-committal line. He just sound sounds petty and arsy. He is way too defensive and passive aggressive to be a top flight manager.

Are you seriously saying people didn't realise it was over two legs. That's got to be bollocks.

Do a venn diagram and you might find it's different people.

True. But the point remians both were chalked off for the same reason.

Both VARs spotted a hand ball when scoring a goal. Both correct and consistent with each other.

I noticed that, Stone Island jacket and a half and half scaft, so obvious.

To be fair I haven't seen many moaning about last night being too long ball.

Yeah I thought Diallo was good last night. Orsic look fast but rarely beat his man, may just need time to adjust.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64296717 Ankersen admitted Jones was "never going to be an appointment for great PR" but his record as manager of the year in the Championship last season - "Europe's sixth-biggest league", the co-owner insists - suggested he could be successful at a higher level. "He ticked boxes for us," said Ankersen. "We needed a manager who believed in what we believed in. We knew the issues - squad togetherness, set plays, keeping clean sheets and being harder to beat. "He has a track record of fixing these." So Ankersen has set out the criteria that they will judge NJ by, has he improved those areas yet?