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Same here. I was worried his best years were behind him ala Mourihno, choice of coaching staff and lack of language. Very pleased he (and Les) have proved me wrong.

I'd rather Britain focussed on doing far more to help refugees in adjoining countries - mainly Lebanon and Turkey - and helping to rebuild war torn countries once the conflict is over. The aim should be to enable people to return to their homes, not to take a token few in here and leave the vast majority to live in economic and physical ruins.

There's a pretty informative thread about it here http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/portsmouth/news/16115/great-pompey-myths-debunked--no-1-the-origin-of-scummers/page:1/

Nothing is for sure - just a realistic prospect of the Union breaking up will be enough imo. The right wing anti EU Tory MPs driving Brexit are mostly also the ones who are pro union. They are going to be split. With Labour, SNP, LDs and Tory left aligned against her she just wont have the majority to carry it through. There will be a soft Brexit fudge.

So what are your thoughts on the Catalonia independence campaign then Wes? No doubt you have given as much thought to this as to trying to teach yourself not to open the door during the spin cycle.

You may be factually/constitutionally/legally correct but it doesn't really matter. You think Catalonia have the rights to decide on Constitutional affairs? They are doing it anyway. https://www.ft.com/content/f024dad0-8595-11e6-a29c-6e7d9515ad15 Sturgeon isnt working off the top of her head - she is smart and will have paid well to get top legal advice. If she doesnt get what she wants from May she will hold some kind of referendum without Westminster's approval. What is May going to do about it - send the police in to physically stop people voting? disregard the result? jail Sturgeon? Whatever she does she is screwed and the Westminster legitimacy is gone. Brexit is supposed to be all about democracy and accountability remember.

Putting 'End of' at the end always betrays a weak position. The Scots voted remain. If May tries to force them to leave, especially leave the single market, Sturgeon will stage another referendum regardless of what Westminster thinks, and she will win. Labour, SNP, LDs and pro Europe Tories already have a clear majority in Parliament. The pro EU Tories are already considering how far their loyalty stretches. Throw the break up of the UK into the mix of the Banks and and car industry kicking up and she will be toast if she persists with hard Brexit. She either finds a middle way or she will be out before the next election.

May's demand to Sturgeon that Scotland play its part in making Brexit work is more than a little bizarre. If Brexit means Brexit then surely for Scotland voting Remain means Remain? May seems uncompromising, acting as though the vote was 70:30 instead of 52:48. Given the situation with the car industry, banks, Scotland and NI I cant see any other result than Parliament voting down any hard Brexit and May having to resign. We will be Norway.

I wonder if he feels it was worth it. He's got the money f'sure, but lost his place in the team and no longer playing for France. His self esteem must have taken a big hit.

I wonder if he feels it was worth it. He's got the money f'sure, but lost his place in the team and no longer playing for France. His self esteem must have taken a big hit.

You literally don't understand what you're talking about. Apposite really. You're convinced you know better than the car industry. https://www.ft.com/content/c397f174-9205-11e6-a72e-b428cb934b78 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-tariffs-on-uk-car-exports-to-europe-would-be-disastrous-for-jobs-says-jaguar-land-a7334991.html http://www.supplychainonline.co.uk/article/uk-auto-industry-raises-concerns-over-post-brexit-supply-chain-tariffs/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36628918 "Before the new Bentley SUV purrs away from the showroom, its bumper will have already travelled 2,200 miles, crossing the English Channel three times. The luxury carmaker is owned by Volkswagen but based in Crewe in northern England, where VW invested heavily to upgrade a factory that dates from the second world war. But while the final assembly of each Bentley remains in Britain, the components that make up the cars are drawn from across the world and often zigzag back and forth between factories in the UK and the continent before arriving at Crewe. That leaves Bentley’s supply chain, in common with that of almost every other car manufacturer in Britain, at risk of being hit by tariffs if Britain leaves the European single market. Bumpers for some Bentley Bentaygas, for example, are made in Europe but then sent to Crewe for inspection before then going to Germany for specialist painting. After that, they return to the UK for final assembly. Another example of the interconnectedness of the supply chain is a fuel injector for diesel lorries manufactured by the US component maker Delphi. This part uses steel from Europe which is machined in the UK before going to Germany for special heat treatment. The injector is then assembled at Delphi’s UK plant in Stonehouse, Gloucestershire, before being sold on to truckmakers based in Sweden, France or Germany. If the resulting truck is sold into the UK market, the component or materials used in it will have crossed the Channel five times before the lorry is ever driven by the customer. If tariffs are applied at each stage, the cost could be substantial. Suppliers to the UK car industry have warned that just the uncertainty over future trade agreements may force them to relocate parts of their manufacturing process overseas. “If you have any tariffs, you would have to fundamentally look at your whole supply chain because you could quickly end up losing your margin on the component,” said Tim Lawrence, head of manufacturing at PA Consulting. The UK car industry supports 169,000 manufacturing jobs, of which 78,000 are in supply chain companies, according to the trade body SMMT. Some 18 of the world’s 20 largest parts groups have operations in the UK, including Bosch, Continental, Magna and Delphi. Two-thirds of the £4bn of motor components that are exported from the UK go to the EU, while the vast majority of materials that go into British-built cars are imported. If we faced tariffs, we would need to make the supply chain shorter and more integrated, or would need to take the assembly out of the UK. Supplier Consultancy Vendigital estimates that, of the £15bn-worth of materials used in UK cars, some £12bn comes from overseas."

You literally don't understand what you're talking about. Apposite really. You're convinced you know better than the car industry. https://www.ft.com/content/c397f174-9205-11e6-a72e-b428cb934b78 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-tariffs-on-uk-car-exports-to-europe-would-be-disastrous-for-jobs-says-jaguar-land-a7334991.html http://www.supplychainonline.co.uk/article/uk-auto-industry-raises-concerns-over-post-brexit-supply-chain-tariffs/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36628918 "Before the new Bentley SUV purrs away from the showroom, its bumper will have already travelled 2,200 miles, crossing the English Channel three times. The luxury carmaker is owned by Volkswagen but based in Crewe in northern England, where VW invested heavily to upgrade a factory that dates from the second world war. But while the final assembly of each Bentley remains in Britain, the components that make up the cars are drawn from across the world and often zigzag back and forth between factories in the UK and the continent before arriving at Crewe. That leaves Bentley’s supply chain, in common with that of almost every other car manufacturer in Britain, at risk of being hit by tariffs if Britain leaves the European single market. Bumpers for some Bentley Bentaygas, for example, are made in Europe but then sent to Crewe for inspection before then going to Germany for specialist painting. After that, they return to the UK for final assembly. Another example of the interconnectedness of the supply chain is a fuel injector for diesel lorries manufactured by the US component maker Delphi. This part uses steel from Europe which is machined in the UK before going to Germany for special heat treatment. The injector is then assembled at Delphi’s UK plant in Stonehouse, Gloucestershire, before being sold on to truckmakers based in Sweden, France or Germany. If the resulting truck is sold into the UK market, the component or materials used in it will have crossed the Channel five times before the lorry is ever driven by the customer. If tariffs are applied at each stage, the cost could be substantial. Suppliers to the UK car industry have warned that just the uncertainty over future trade agreements may force them to relocate parts of their manufacturing process overseas. “If you have any tariffs, you would have to fundamentally look at your whole supply chain because you could quickly end up losing your margin on the component,” said Tim Lawrence, head of manufacturing at PA Consulting. The UK car industry supports 169,000 manufacturing jobs, of which 78,000 are in supply chain companies, according to the trade body SMMT. Some 18 of the world’s 20 largest parts groups have operations in the UK, including Bosch, Continental, Magna and Delphi. Two-thirds of the £4bn of motor components that are exported from the UK go to the EU, while the vast majority of materials that go into British-built cars are imported. If we faced tariffs, we would need to make the supply chain shorter and more integrated, or would need to take the assembly out of the UK. Supplier Consultancy Vendigital estimates that, of the £15bn-worth of materials used in UK cars, some £12bn comes from overseas."

Baby wipes - thats the way to go.

Baby wipes - thats the way to go.

As I said, Dreamland. Only 37% of the components of 'British made' cars by value are sourced in Britain, most of the parts are imported. 14 of the 15 worlds largest car parts suppliers are German, French or American. You can witter on about the price of raw materials but guess what? its irrelevant. Jaguar, Nissan, Honda, Jaguar, Toyota, Mini and the rest don't buy raw materials. They buy finished dashboards complete with instrumentation, they mostly buy imported engines, they buy in seats, tyres, sunroofs, door handles ad infinitum. A corporation tax cut would outweigh tariffs? You simply have no clue, but its typical of Brexit economics. It is possible to reasonably argue, like Duckhunter, that the gains of exit are worth the economic cost of leaving the EU - I think thats wrong but its a valid argument. You are simply an illiterate who thinks giving it large making up figures about the cost of car manufacture makes you look informed. It doesnt. "In the UK, 37% of the total value of spend in the supply chain (£33 billion in 2012) is currently sourced locally. Depending on the manufacturer, between 20-50% is imported from the EU and the rest from outside the EU". http://www.smmt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/SMMT-KPMG-EU-Report.pdf

As I said, Dreamland. Only 37% of the components of 'British made' cars by value are sourced in Britain, most of the parts are imported. 14 of the 15 worlds largest car parts suppliers are German, French or American. You can witter on about the price of raw materials but guess what? its irrelevant. Jaguar, Nissan, Honda, Jaguar, Toyota, Mini and the rest don't buy raw materials. They buy finished dashboards complete with instrumentation, they mostly buy imported engines, they buy in seats, tyres, sunroofs, door handles ad infinitum. A corporation tax cut would outweigh tariffs? You simply have no clue, but its typical of Brexit economics. It is possible to reasonably argue, like Duckhunter, that the gains of exit are worth the economic cost of leaving the EU - I think thats wrong but its a valid argument. You are simply an illiterate who thinks giving it large making up figures about the cost of car manufacture makes you look informed. It doesnt. "In the UK, 37% of the total value of spend in the supply chain (£33 billion in 2012) is currently sourced locally. Depending on the manufacturer, between 20-50% is imported from the EU and the rest from outside the EU". http://www.smmt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/SMMT-KPMG-EU-Report.pdf

Got it. We're cutting corporation tax, not introducing tariffs, losing a big chunk of our biggest earner, more expensive imports don't count (even though imports far exceed exports) and balancing the budget. As I said, Dreamland.

We know maths isnt your strong point. WTO tariffs are mostly 10%. Nissan for example would be subject to 10% import duties on parts and then 10% duties on exports. c20% extra on sales of c£7.5bn is going to be rather more than a cut in tax on profits - 1, They wont be making any profits 2. They wont be here.

Dreamland. We aren't going to be a manufacturing led economy again even if corporation tax was zero - unless you also plan to cut wages to $10 per day? Your use of Singapore as a manufacturing example shows how out of touch you are. Their base has been in decline for a decade- due to high wage costs compared with China. The funny / ironic part of your post if only you knew it was that their growth is now driven by banking. http://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/2016/04/22/singapore-overtakes-hong-kong-in-finance.html http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/singapore/singapore-s-manufacturing/2551056.html

Slightly different to what you were asking but I had test done when I was working at a hospital in London. Aalt that time they were part of the project mapping the human genome and needed handy volunteers. My feedback was "pretty good, good heart good lungs, but if you suffer from a severe bout of food poisoning after your 40s you will end up as hunchback". I guess they've refined the debriefing a bit since then....

The banks, Britain's biggest export earners, worth £126 billion to the economy getting ready to head out says Head of British Banking Association. Just project fear / wont happen / we dont need them / its all about democracy and immigrants anyway dontchaknow. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/22/brexit-threat-to-british-banks

You're thinking of a hamster

Re Smiffys its obviously a difference of opinion beetween younger generation and old, just like Brexit itself. http://lincolnshirereporter.co.uk/2016/10/no-choice-lincolnshire-firm-quits-britain-brexit/ http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/big-feature-just-big-happy-family/story-24773699-detail/story.html

Exactly. The Brexit campaign is mired in lies about some Polyanna world unnecessarily. When the pound drops prices of imports go up, including food prices. Why pretend they won't /don't? British farmers rely on EU subsidies for over half their income - up to 80% on hill farms. Remove those subsidies and most will go bankrupt. Why pretend they won't? Guided Missiles carp about how genetically modified (transgenic) crops could make food wonderfully cheap if only it wasn't for the howwible EU is just another lie. The three largest arable crops in Britain are wheat, barley and oats. Have a guess how many tonnes of GM wheat, barley and oats are grown worldwide. Zero. There are no commercially grown GM variants available or approved anywhere in the world. Most grains have a much more complex genome than maize or soya beans and its generally too expensive to modify them and make a profit. You can make a valid argument for stopping subsidising British agriculture and using the land to create more wild areas / national parks. Biodiversity and leisure opportunities would increase. You could import most of our food and reduce prices (though not as cheap as before the pounds fall). You could build needed housing on low grade / unattractive land. Equally you can make a valid argument for the British government continuing subsidising agriculture and fisheries at high levels - food security, reduction of imports, rural employment etc. Why not debate on the real issues rather than made up ones about how everything is going to be great once we get rid of the EU subsidies / meddling and introduce good old British transgenic crops?

British arable farmers sell a lot of food grade wheat overseas. Its profitable for them to do that because they are financially supported by the EU CAP subsidies. Without that EU support then they wouldnt be price competitive. Im certainly not suggesting they are stupid.