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Right there, embedded in the big building, just under the fireball.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49c_1252531394 http://www.spike.com/video-clips/6lhdrj/plane-strikes-pentagon-second-angle

What was his injury in the end? Dont think I ever read that.

I dont get it. One minute some bloke is having a ****, then somebody flicks half a pound of custard with a spoon. Terrible continuity.

I thought it had passed into footie folklore.

Are we talking Richard Keys "smash"?

Its the reverse imo. My Dad used to be in the merchant navy and he had a collection of tats from ports he'd visited like Murmansk and Shanghai - beautifully drawn and a part of his past. A girlfriend I had in 1983 had a small Iris (flower) tatooed on her shoulder at a time when women NEVER got tats and it made her distinctive. I only became anti when tattoos stopped being an individualistic choice specific that person and became some kind of mainstream fashion statement for 'me toos' to get Sanskrit phrases (like "Im a thick westerner who cant read Sanskrit") or Celtic crosses. Also lots of people go to tatootists who cant draw! If you are going to do it at least get something different and well executed.

I'd go. He's operated at the top in a notoriously cut throat business for a long time, and in a business which is full of stories and intrigue. Even if he doesnt enlighten you on the path to becoming a FTSE 100 CEO within 5 years, he'll be entertaining.

I agree Cameron is getting porky. Bit rich for this woman to be handing out style tips though...

Is that the discount motor warehouse outside Doncaster?

Cruciate injury, broken leg and dislocated ankle before the age of 20 has got to leave a mark - either physically or psychologically. Hope he finds a way back.

I make of it she's living with somebody else but wants a bit on the side. hth.

Im not saying that politicans and political parties dont have domestic and foreign policy agendas, sometimes secret, far from it. We all know they do, thats their raison d'etre. Will they tell a few lies and do favours for their friends along the way to aid the brew? yes absolutely. Was 9/11 exploited after the event as an excuse to go into Iraq and Afghanistan and be seen to be 'doing something'? - yes. But both of those are totally different kettle of fish from organising specialist teams of Americans to build and fly remote control airplanes into buildings occupied by 50,000 of their own countrymen and then have another team of American detonate explosives to bring down the buildings onto people as they try to flee. Why would American professional and tech geeks do this? kill up to 50,000 fellow citizens and potentially their own families so that politicians have an excuse to invade Iraq at the behest of the military industrial complex? Some how I dont think so.

Secret conspiracies of this nature dont happen. 1. because carrying out acts like blowing up the WTC would necessarily involve people who arent committed to the ideals of the conspiracy but have essential skills (where do you find teams of controlled demolition experts willing to kill thousands of people, if there are only perhaps 50 people with those skills in the world?) 2 , perhaps more importantly than 1 is that there is no gain - political, popular or even financial for the political leaders who supposed framed the conspiracy. Is George Bush's legacy and reputation enhanced by the Iraqi and Afghan wars? I agree about the nature of the debate being almost religious. IMO conspiracy theorists (Alien coverups, JFK, UFOs, MLK, Princess Diana etc) share a psychological makeup with religious fundamentalists - an irrational total conviction in beliefs and ideas which dont stack up, but which they loudly promulgate to an uninterested world.

Given a favourable draw and a little luck its winnable cup as most of the premiership sides dont take it too seriously. I quite fancy being in Europe again

seedy

Aah. New info, thanks. Mainly thought it would come in useful for washing the kids canvas plimmies and deck shoes.

Its important to have a hobby Oddly Ive just bought a washing machine with a dedicated trainers washing programme....

Kin 'ell. Getting people to fall for an obvious **** take troll is easier than I thought. Respect Dog!

Same mentality as body piercings. People with no imagination trying to show how individual they are by copying each other.

Lol. Thats a double facepalm because there is a really good Roman Villa site on the IOW at Brading. http://www.bradingromanvilla.org.uk/

Ive used this system for spares before. It will get you no obligation quotes for parts. http://www.1stchoice.co.uk/Cars/Mazda/airconditioning/ This site tells you how to do the work (the MX5 is called the Miata in the US I think) http://www.ehow.com/how_5689428_replace-a_c-compressor-miata.html

I watched about 30mins of the vid. Seems to me the presenter (an architect of single storey reatil sheds and leisure centres) destoys his own argument. First claims the buildings imploded cleanly in a way which could only be done by expert controlled demolition, then later claims that huge beams from WTC were embedded in other buildings 100 of yards away and that only explosives could have carried them there. Actually being hit by a plane weighing 150 tons flying at 400mph and loaded with thousands of gallons of kerosene seems a more likely explanation to me....

Who knows what their motives are. In any profession with millions of members you will always have a few dissonant voices. You should watch the brief BBC presentation on the twin towers and listen to the voice of the structural engineer who built them (especially around 5:15). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14634600

Alan Carr