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I tend to agree with this viewpoint rather than the ticker-tape brigade. The signing doesn't even warrant a one liner in the Daily Fail this morning. It's a good signing. No more, no less.

I don't think much of our new home kit TBH...

You hum it, i'll play it... :-)

Boom. Tish. Here all week per chance? :-))

Who?

jordansibley: Long old day in the office today, but it's all worth it when things finally come together. Make of that what you will...

Actually, crafty move by Murdoch - watch the sales go through the roof this weekend..... ;-)

Damn....another one slips through the net.... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07072011/58/world-football-fowler-shock-move-thailand.html

A poignant anniversary tomorrow (8th July) - the 2nd anniversary of Markus Liebherr plucking Southampton Football Club from the jaws of liquidation - and the first anniversary since his untimely passing last year. A date in the club's history that we'll never forget. RIP Markus and thank you again.

What you talkin' about Willis?

I know the words 'nut' and 'shell' are much over used on here but never have they been more apt than in response to the post above. The British public are largely apathetic (apart from when it comes to having a grumble on an internet forum of course....)

You didn't replace Mr Fry per chance?

That depends on whether they were telling the truth on an internet football forum.... ;-)

I'm landed gentry so I live off my inheritance

Agree. But this is the Saintsweb Forum....where respecting other's views isn't mandatory.... ;-) IMHO, you raise a perfectly reasonable hypothesis in your OP. I've certainly steered my career in certain directions in order to cross paths with managers who I have respect for. But it does work both ways - some of the more "well known" managers in my industry can be pains to work for, so I try and steer clear of them. So, yes, the manager can certainly be a factor in career decision making (if indeed one is in a position of choice). As I say, a reasonable topic for discussion that inevitably falls foul of the debate police on here.

Unless we see the exact wording of said contract we'll never know how interpretable the "strong team" phrase is. I'm sure we'll be sending a "strong" U21 team. No doubt the SFC lawyers have got it covered one way or t'other. Perhaps it's not in the spirit of the agreement but lawyers have a way of squirming around potentially badly or vaguely written contracts...

^ This

Ok.

Stop moaning about people moaning FFS! ;-)

Sshhhhhh.....please, no inconvenient truths on here thank you very much.

Indeed. I know I keep saying that none of this excuses the behaviour of the perpetrators, but the telcos couldn't really have made it any easier for the system to be cracked in the first place if they'd tried. As I say, if the banks had been this inept you can bet they would now be getting a load of flak.

How much? Cheers

I think they call it selective memory.

Well, if that's how they did it then the telcos are even more un-security conscious than even I thought they were. It simply highlights my point. There would be uproar if banks sent out debit or credit cards with default PINs yet the telcos see this as perfectly acceptable practice for their phone's voicemail. Issuing phones with random voicemail PINs would hardly be rocket science. Oh, it would cost them a few bob to administer, which is what it boils down to. As I say, none of this excuses the scum for exploiting such an obvious gap in security, but the stupidity of the telcos (and, it would seem, their governing body) is at best laughable and at worst commercially inept. If you bought a new car with a default key to unlock it, who would you shout at the loudest when it was stolen? The car manufacturer or the car thief? Astounding.