Matthew Le God

SuperMikey said he was "****", he didn't say in reference to what he was "****". Most likely it was a comparison with other strikers in the Championship in the 2008/09 season, but we don't know as he didn't say. You however said "one of the worst player I have ever seen". There is a significant difference between the two statements.

You say that as if you think making statements like that will change me. It won't, surely you have worked that out by now, given the numerous times you have done so. I wasn't the one making ridiculous statements like "McGoldrick is one of the worst players I've ever seen". Which is clearly nonsense, yet you make comments to me rather than him.

I think this thread has come to its natural conclusion. The End (p.s. someone remind me when the day comes to collect from DellDays the £100 to go to a charity of my choosing )

- Saints have been in League One for the last two seasons. - Saints have been playing non league teams in friendlies for his entire life. - Saints have been playing lower league teams in cup competitions for his entire life. Unless he has seen very little football (only at Premier League level) and very little of Saints, he would have seen many players worse than McGoldrick. Even in the last two seasons, McGoldrick would be a regular for pretty much every team Saints have played against in League One.

Try harder? You were the one that said McGoldrick was one of the worst players you had ever seen. That is quite a statement, he is a professional footballer that although not great, has been a regular in a Championship side. Surely you have seen far worse?

I find that hard to believe.

Only by two goals in 2008/09 (having played more games). And McGoldrick has shown himself to be capable of playing for a top six Championship side last season.

I know, my point was that he isn't untested at that level (as suggested in the post I quoted). I didn't comment if he was a success or not. In any case 10 goals for a relegated team isn't that bad tbf.

He was a Championship striker as recently as the 2009/10 season.

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tbf He joined Pompey as a youth player and was later let go. I'm sure he is delighted to have a second chance to play at Fratton Park, having spent a number of years trying to do just that, even if he is a Chelsea fan.

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As I've said before, many fans are casual and simply don't care in the same way many on here do. The prospect of Premier League football is what attracts them in. Many of those that had season tickets/membership/regular match goer in the Premier League years aren't interested in League One/Championship football and don't go to many games. They flood in at the first hint of success, hence why the Walsall game sold out ahead of matchday. Just because he said it, doesn't make it true. Whether that game had 24k (as it did) or sold out with 32k, it didn't make a difference to the survival of the club. The club needed an investor, the extra money those 8k would bring wouldn't have plugged many holes. The match in terms of the clubs financial survival was pointless. Look back the season before to 2007/08 and you will see the club sold out the Sheff Utd game, the fans knew that the club could stay up on the last day. In 2008/09, it was out of the players hands if they stayed up or not and out of the fans hands if the club survived or not and thus less appealing to the casual fans.

Every penny didn't matter, most fans knew that. If Saints didn't have a buyer it didn't matter how many turned up to the stadium against Burnley. Just short of 24k is a huge figure all things considered (administration, 2nd tier Saints team that was awful vs a 2nd tier opposition, impeding relegation to the 3rd tier).

I'm glad you approve Glasgow.

Why strange? Clubs have those that are obsessed and hardcore, and those that are casual and in many ways "glory hunters" only there in the good times. The club was never going to be saved by fans going to those post admin games and generating money, the club was entirely dependant on outside investment. Also the three post admin/pre Liebherr games at St Mary's... vs Charlton 27,228 vs Palace 23,220 (on a Monday) vs Burnley 23,927 (not 21k as you said) A number of Premier League teams would be delighted with those figures, let alone a club that was in administration and about to plunge into the 3rd tier.

We have been through this... There is a huge difference between a match towards the top of the Premier League with Saints full of internationals and Premier League players, and one with Saints on the verge of relegation in the Championship with an awful squad. Football clubs have hardcore support who turn up no matter what (within reason) and thus that only turn up in the good times. Thus matches after administration happened had huge attendances considering they were Championship matches for a very poor side.

As clubs in the future will be dependant on breaking even at minimum, they need to increase as far as they can their revenue streams in order to compete. If Southampton were in the Premier League last season they would most likely have been 12th in terms of average attendance. Many clubs are also looking at increasing capacities in the short to medium term, so by standing still and not increasing above 32k Saints would fall behind and drop lower than 12th. There is a reasonable correlation between attendances and footballing success. Cortese clearly has higher ambitions than 12th and thus will require a stadium capacity increase to match these ambitions.

Cortese has already said they have been in discussions with the council and have plans for what they want to do. He said 15 months ago it was too early to really look into it. It is now 15 months later, I'm not saying things have progressed much more, but it is no longer the "now" that Cortese was talking about in March 2010.

The opening post of this thread... A number of posters being negative just because the majority of the last 25 years it has been rubbish supporting Saints has drained the life out of this thread. I'm the positive one saying there are strong signs that 32k isn't big enough. It isn't me being the "fun hoover" as DellDays puts it. He should be looking closer to home.

That isn't what I said at all.

So what would this thread be about if I wasn't in it? You think that the stadium doesn't need expanding, doesn't that suck all the fun out of the thread?