Matthew Le God

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I don't know what happened there. SEGA/SI require the Football League to send them the kits in order to create them for the game. Either the Football League haven't sent it or SEGA/SI have left it out by mistake. I will try and find out what happened, but it won't be changed until a data update now as the game has gone gold.

"Positioning" is a defensive attribute. "Off the ball" is for attacking movement.

The game starts in July 2011, so the player ratings reflect the players in July 2011 i.e. the Championship hadn't started and Saints hadn't stormed to the top of it. That doesn't mean to say players won't improve as you play out your first season, give them games and good training and they will improve, many have good potential ratings. The January 2012 data update will reflect the squad as it is in January, if we still sit top of the league, lots of players will be getting boosts!

He has a high flair, two footedness, dribbling and creativity rating which should make him play as he does in real life.

In order to give him the kind of attributes some of you are talking about, I'd have to make him a 140+ CA player, and I could never justify that at the moment to SI and the other researchers would crucify me!

As I said earlier, should the club maintain current form until January you will see improvements for many Saints players. In any case Lallana is one of the best Championship players in FM12 in terms of CA, certainly one of the best for his position, plus he has a good potetial ability rating so will improve as the game progresses through the first season. I've also made him more two footed than he was in FM11, which takes a large weighting.

Remember this is 1-20 on a world scale. I have to remove my rose tinted Saints glasses for this. The database needs to be balanced and can't have the many researchers working for SI/SEGA overrating all of their own players. We work to guidelines in order to achieve this, and being guidelines they still do allow for some flexibility.

What do you mean by "clunky"? Give it time and I think you will get used to it. I think it is easier to navigate than before. In any case if you still don't like the GUI there will be lots of user created skins to use available soon. His value may be higher, but he doesn't have a current ability rating anywhere near Lallana, Fox, Fonte, Cork or indeed the vast majority of the Saints 1st team squad. That value is largely meaningless and always has been in FM. What stats are you unhappy about?

Yes, if Saints continue as they are until January you will see big improvements for that data update. They needed to prove it before I can justify to SI that they can have higher ratings. In any case many of them already have good ratings for Championship level.

Those values mean very little, it will cost a lot more than that to buy them. Both of them have high CA's for Championship players. I have asked about this so it may change, but bear in mind there are generic kit styles used for every team in the game and many teams even if they have patterned fronts, have plain backs to make numbers easier to read.

Then why does Derby chairman, Tom Glick think otherwise? What counts as "football income" anyway? And where did you read this?

Give the demo a try and see how your computer copes with it.

But why does it matter if it is unrelated to football? It is another sustainable revenue stream to make the football club a stronger business. That is what this financial fair play regulations are here to bring about, football clubs with strong financial revenue streams that can support themselves rather than with huge debts or sugar daddies.

I don't see why using things cafes, restaurants, offices, hotels etc would be an issue. These rules have been brought in to prevent unsustainable expenditure by clubs and relying on sugar daddy's. If clubs find new ways to increase revenue, I don't see why they shouldn't be included in the clubs turnover for the new regulations. They are sustainable long term revenue streams for the benefit of the club.

But is that what the new rules say? Tom Glick in that interview seems to think the cafes, restaurants and offices at the Plaza will count for Derby County. And I'm sure he has looked into this more than any of us have.

No, aintforever used it, not me. Tom Glick clearly sees the Plaza at Pride Park as a way of helping Derby when the regulations come in.

Where have you got the phrase "football income" from?

So where would you draw the line? Do St Mary's concourse sales count towards turnover? Does the Saints store income from West Quay count? Does St Mary's corporate restaurant revenue count? Do conferencing events held at St Mary's on non matchdays count? Does income from the St Mary's megastore count? Does revenue from the online store count? etc etc They all will, and as the Derby excutive states, so will the income from the Plaza at Pride Park. So if Saints were to do similar, it would also count.

The difference here is that Man City are just one rich club, but they will be up against objections from the rest of the European big clubs. Collectively they will have more power to make UEFA clamp down on Man City than Man City will of getting their own way. As for the person to say if it is out of line, well that would be the man I quoted. They will look at comparable clubs both within football and other sports and if the deal is far in excess then they claim they will stop it. Of course it has been yet to be done, but given the other large clubs are pressuring UEFA I think it will happen.

It is a different topic and would have been lost in the other one. A chance to discuss the demo, rather than the announcement of the full game.

The new rules look at the marketplace and if a sponsorship deal is far in excess of the world sports market then it would be stopped. Like with what is happening about the stadium sponsorship. Jean-Luc Dehaene, the chairman of Uefa's Club Financial Control Panel... "If we see clubs that are looking for loopholes we will act. It is not enough to say: 'We've got a sponsorship contract and that's OK' if the contract is out of line."

I don't know in the case of Man City and putting their oil businesses in the same company, I'd imagine the governing bodies would try to prevent that. However the Derby County executive even states the money earnt from the Pride Park Plaza would go back into the team and aid them under the financial fair play rules. Otherwise where do you draw the line, does the Saints megastore count, the West Quay Saints shop, the concourses in the stadium, the corporate restaurants etc etc? If Saints were to buy up the land around St Mary's and put their own restaurants, offices, hotels etc there why can't that count in the same way revenue streams in the stadium count?

What are you counting as "football income"? Why does it matter if the restaurant is literally inside the stadium or next to it? Are you also saying the Saints shop in West Quay shouldn't count? It is all part of the same business.

Derby County announced this multi million pound development a few days ago to boost revenue streams in light of the financial fair play regulations coming into force... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-15154482 Might suit Saints to do similar (along with the 50k stadium )