revolution saint

Nothing serious for me but remember the crush on the milton early 90's. I made the mistake of getting to a game early and getting a great spot just in front of one of the metal barriers - great till we scored. Everyone pushed forward and I thought my ribs would break. It got to the stage where I almost hoped we wouldn't score again. Of course this season that wouldn't have been much of a problem.

Well technically b astard and probably b ugger could be applied equally but I'm not sure they often are - they're both pretty much exclusively applied to men. Anyway, I don't think it's been a sexist thread and there have been enough similar threads on men doing equally bad things so I don't think people are judging the person by their gender. Whoever said it was probably an east european immigrant is jumping to conclusions and wrong though.

b astard and b ugger would both tend to imply the person is male wouldn't it?

Hatton should retire now - there's nothing left for him to achieve (that he's capable of). He's a good fighter but not a great one and that should be good enough for him. He reminds me of Arturo Gatti - excellent entertainment and a real scrapper but lacked that bit of boxing class. In fact Hatton is very similar to his hero, Roberto Duran, in that respect. The only thing likely on the horizon is a meeting with Amir Khan (if he beats Kotelnik) but that would be a mistake. What would it prove if he won? Nothing because the doubts are still there over the class of Khan. If Khan won then equally people would just say he beat up a shadow of the fighter Hatton once was. Mind you, it'll sell tickets and ultimately that's all boxing seems to be about. Oh, congratulations to Manny. No complaints here - he won fair and square and even if Hatton boxed more cleverly I don't believe he'd ever have won. As for Mayweather Vs Manny? Would be a good fight. Mayweather isn't stupid though and if it was made then it would be on his terms. That means it would probably be at welterweight - not great for Manny. I also think that if Mayweather has the same form he showed against Hatton then he'd beat Manny.

Yes, that's my feeling too and add in that Ricky looks really, really weight drained and the supposed trouble in the camp with Mayweather Snr then it doesn't look good for Ricky. I really feel that the Hatton that beat Kostya Tzstu (sp?) would beat Manny but now? I'd love it but Roach isn't stupid and they'll just box their way out of trouble.

The inside work will be crucial - I haven't seen enough of it in recent fights from Hatton. He used to be devastating on the inside but seems to want to box much more now. Against PBF he actually got beaten up on the inside, forget the ref, Hatton just didn't compete there. Maybe that was the weight issue though. The only nagging thing in my head is that Roach is an excellent trainer - I'd rate him above Mayweather Snr f'sure. If he can get Manny to stick to a gameplan then I'd rate Manny's chances. I'd be suprised if it was over in three though (as Roach suggests) but then if we got another Hagler V Hearns three rounds then I won't complain.

Don't get me started on them! What about the fat bloke on a sofa saying of his loan, "we even had some left over" after buying a car or home improvements. Well in that case you borrowed too much! It's not free money.

Thankfully I have no idea who he is, apart from the fact he appears on "Breakfast" every so often. Cookery shows in general annoy me anyway. I have reserved a special place in hell for anyone appearing in the Norwich Union/Aviva advertisements at the moment. Specifically for putting that McCulkin kid in it saying "Remember me". Why? Why should I remember a washed up child actor of no note whatsoever? Oh and Ringo Starr whining that he wants people to call him by his real name. That's OK but then why in a prior ad did he presume his success was due to changing his name. You can't have it both ways! If you change your name then obviously people are going to call you it you muppet!

I'd prefer to complain about adverts in general. Especially the extremely irritating ones fronted by fat tongued, ****ney mockney, crusading chefs.

sky sports news just mentioned two jersey based property developers, not Tom Scott. Apparently Fry is meeting them this week though it sounded like it's the most advanced deal at the moment. More news as it breaks....as they say.

Think it's more to do with wanting to see the best genuine P4P boxer win, at least that's my interpretation. Personally I'd love to see Hatton roll back the years and really get stuck into Pacman. I'm not sure it's the best way to beat him but I think it's the best way for hatton to beat him (if that makes sense?). Personally I'm still not convinced about Pacman at 140, he beat an old, weight drained (and in fact lighter boxer) in DLH, so Hatton has everything to go for. He's going to have to close pacman down quick, restrict his movement and dominate the ring though. If he can get in close and do what he didn't do against PBF then he's got a chance. Let's face it though this is what the yanks call a "pick 'em" and I wouldn't be confident calling it either way. I'd fancy Hatton's chances more than I would Haye in June though.

Cheers, apparently it's on ITV tonight as well. Brave decision by the ref to stop it that late.

Firstly, congratulations to Froch on beating Taylor. Good fight by all accounts and a dramatic conclusion. Shame no domestic channel thought it good enough to buy the rights for. Setanta you mugs! I only subscribe for the boxing and you let that one slip. Secondly as it's only a week till Pacman against Hatton...any thoughts? Personally I think Pac will get a points decision over Hatton. For me Hatton hasn't looked good for some time and beating Malinaggi isn't the greatest achievement in the world although he did show signs of improving. I'm not sure Hatton's at his most effective when he tries to box and he still seems a bit vulnerable. Pac will throw a lot and likes the mexican "come forward" style so the big question is can he handle Hatton's power? I don't think we can take much from the DLH fight so it's still up for debate. Not sure Hatton's power has been that effective at the top level for a while though. I don't think we'll get a KO but who knows?

Yep, it works now, cheers. I'm going to give it a listen now.

I dunno, chuck in a revolutionary coaching set up (obviously foreign), the best catering in the country, a radio station, a managerial revolving door and an insistence that the transfer fund be spent on lots of average foreign players or players that are "one for the future" and I'll consider it. I'd also want an insistence from Lowe that he continues his crusade to make football conform to his blueprint - clearly he's the only one who can sort out the whole of football and not just saints.

But he assisted in the purchase of Chelsea for Abramovich and Pompey for GayDalek which is why I said he could be involved in some way. In any case it's all ridiculous pie in the sky stuff anyway.

Ironic isn't it that to create a national identity many people find something they collectively hate - the scots and the welsh hate the english for example. The English on the other hand....hate other english people, or maybe they just hate everyone and have unfocused rage issues. Anyway, all good points but unfortunately Mao was on a wind up - easy mistake to make as someone would have said it and meant it eventually. I realised.

Link doesn't work for me - I've got spotify so not sure what's going on there.

And in another purely speculative punt doesn't Souness have strong links with Israel? Wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that Zahavi could be involved in some way with the Souness bid. All guesswork on my part.

Frannie was a proper cult hero - not the most gifted but effective and 100% committed. I always thought he was a bit of a poor man's Des Walker. When he was used as a man marker in a back three he was fantastic and he marked both Cantona and Rush out of games at the Dell.

How exactly did the ordinary fan allow Michael Wilde to do anything? He may have had popular support but that support equalled zero influence on Lowe or anyone else. Someone produced an interesting stat that saints fans had witnessed fewer wins than any other club over the past ten years - I doubt that's changed much. That's why people get annoyed - because, to use business parlance, we have the worst product in the football league. I'd suggest any club with this record would have a majority of disillusioned fans.

Yeah I know a few pompey fans that feel the same. Frankly I don't really care about them though and never have. When they came up I felt I had to make believe a hatred I never really had but they're just another club. We just haven't had enough recent history for me. Now that we're below them it makes me wonder just how they kept their hatred for us so strong - I mean I never check their results or know where they are in the table. I don't mind if they're obsessed with us but I couldn't care less about them.

Count me in. Should be good.

yep, me too. Was saying at work only the other day that however good MLT's goals were (and they were good) nothing for me beat seeing Horne smash that goal from 40 yards out deep into injury time to save us from going out of the cup.

Only ever bet small amounts so it doesn't stand up to previous posts and I stick with boxing mostly "stick to what you know". Best: Calzaghe 1st round knockout of an east european guy (forget his name) at 28/1. Hasim Rachman beating Lennox at 10/1 Barrera beating Hamed at 8/1 (now that was easy money - anyone who'd seen Barrera fight Morales could see how that one would play out). Worst: Just about anything I put on the National.