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jesus ****ing H christ!

Obama has already criticised Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr so that one doesn't really hold much water. Bill Ayers was a terrorist I guess but he's also been Chicago's citizen of the year. In any case Ayers and Obama served on a couple of charity boards together - big deal. Ayers hosted some fund raising events for Obama..again big deal. None of this matters because as you pointed out with 'Joe the Plumber' none of them are running for president. I think it's good that there is clear policy difference beween the two though. Obama states quite clearly that 95% of the population will benefit from his policies while McCain favours policies that reward the health insurance companies and the rich. It's a legitimate choice rather than a choice between two politicians that essentially say the same thing. BTW if you really want to have a look at scandal then look at how the republicans stole the election between Bush and Gore. They actually did that. Ironically if they hadn't then America might not be in the mess it's in now and McCain might have stood a better chance of getting elected.

This is true, he works for a plumbing company but isn't a plumber. The union that represents plumbers in the US is supporting Obama.

McCain also has an annoying tendency to hold his arms out like a scarecrow. It's as if he's got a coathanger in his jacket. I notice he also says 'my friend' a lot. I thought he lost the debate and especially that 'Joe the plumber' argument he kept coming back to. I couldn't understand why he continued to return to it - it's fine to make a point but to keep repeating it isn't very clever. I enjoyed the debates though - it's a shame we don't have them over here.

Bluestar buses only being single decker and then having a load of seats facing the wrong way. I don't mind public transport and as I can't park where I work it works out about the same money as driving, plus I do my bit for the environment. I do think that everyone should get a seat though. The backwards seats are so sodding irritating. You've got that awkward 'lift moment' where everyone tries to avoid eye contact but this lasts for 45 minutes!

**** off. obviously in an ironic and gentlemanly way of course.

Ah no problem, in fact it's mostly my fault. I should actually read the Daily Star and watch GMTV. Trouble is I don't. It's the whole facile debate (take newsnight tonight),the inflated hyperbole and the reporting of 'non-news'. It's more a critique of the 24 hour news culture which shouts a lot but says very little.

Well the point was you didn't actually address the point but instead chose to regale us with your considered opinion of the economic climate which wasn't in question. i wasn't really interested in your opinion of that which to sum up was: Government intervention could be good.....or it could be bad. My point was I'm fed up of people saying exactly that!

No really? Wow what an insight Mr Keynes. My point was that it's annoying and dull, not it's effect on us. It wasn't an excuse for you to show off your combined A Levels in economics and politics.

Ummm well thanks for that....not sure I needed yet another economic commentary. My point is that it's not difficult to understand why but that when repeated ad finitum it becomes extremely bloody boring.

Is anyone else sick of hearing all the sodding time about this? It's as if all the news programmes are really getting off on misery and I suppose everyone will say what's new? It's bad enough having to deal with it without some gurning mug gleefully shouting 'and it's gonna get worse!' or that's how it seems to me. If this carries on Eastenders will start being billed as a comedy compared to the news/panorama/watchdog or any other consumer or current affairs show. I know they need to report it but it's bloody depressing nonetheless.

Ah, but this is his un google able little known twin brother....or not.....bugger.

Unlucky mate, unfortunately it happens a fair bit and I guess will become a bit more common now. It happened to me and it's a right kick in the teeth. I was offered statutory minimum or redeployment - I took redeployment as it gave me a year on protected pay to find something better. I found something I thought was better but turned out to to be utter crap. Fortunately after another year I've landed something far far better that i would never have got without going through a couple of years of work being rubbish. It's easy to say it's an opportunity but there's a difference between being forced to look for a job and fancying a change. Anyway good luck.

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Doctor and the medics

People booed Ashley Cole because they read the tabloids or are Arsenal supporters. As I'm neither then I can't say exactly what their point was. If it was to point out how out of touch with the common man he is then they could have booed any player on the pitch. He made a mistake but as a senior pro he's done enough to outweigh that mistake. Anyone who pays to watch a game has the right to boo though. They pay the money and it's their choice. Football is a service industry and footballers are well paid - I doubt they lose much sleep over it. If you pay £50 for a meal and it's crap you don't thank the chef because complaining might dent his confidence. Until it becomes a reasonable price to watch football then people are always going to be more likely to moan....if you pay that much money then the very least you demand is entertainment.

There seems to be two different arguments here. One is should a professional footballer be treated differently to any 'normal' member of the public. The other is whether the punishment fits the crime. Neither are really connected. Personally I think the law should be applied equally and without prejudice to anyone found guilty of any crime regardless of their place in society. As for the second argument - I really don't have a clue. There's the whole argument about whether a sentence is punishment, retribution or rehabilitation. Would leaving anyone guilty of this crime rot in jail be worthwhile? Would the parents feel better? Would it ultimately produce an aged and worthless individual? Perhaps after a lengthy spell inside making him talk to other convicted drunk drivers would be more productive. I really don't know. Seems to me a fairly complex argument with no easy answers. I guess the people who work in this field are the best to judge.

I was going to reply but couldn't be bothered.....oh

I'd like to be a private eye in the Raymond Chandler style. If any scriptwriter wants an idea for a film then write a sequel to 'West World' called 'Noir World' - that's where i want to go on holiday. Failing that I found barwork to be the most fun but least paid and the hours were rubbish. In fact the most enjoyable jobs I've had were the least paid I've had.

Well there are a few I could mention but off the top of my head what about Barry Horne? Good little grafter prepared to do the hard work while Le Tiss, Wallace, Shearer and even Case took the plaudits.

I'd agree with most of this....except the pedant in me can't help pointing out he never helped Holland win the world cup. Apart from that spot on. It was a nice idea and there was a chance it could have been brilliant. Unfortunately that chance was maybe a 10% chance. Now of course we're left with a bunch of demoralised youngsters who will play worse not better, and a structure that even if we got someone else in would most likely need completely dismantling. We're mired in debt and understandably have dwindling crowds. You have to wonder how things can get worse but I think they will do.

I'd agree with most of this, except the designated driver. It's a crap night out if you're driving so I never do it but if anyone is prepared to ferry me around when I'm drunk then they deserve free drinks all night. I'd say watching TV in a pub full stop is bad etiquette unless it's for a specific sports event. This is a grey area though. Asking for a Guinness as the last drink in the round - clearly wrong. Jumping the queue - just about the worst thing you can do. Come on, we all know who's next even if the barman doesn't (it's not always easy to spot when you're on that side and have a long bar to check) but we can help them out. As an ex-barman one of the things that annoyed me was getting halfway through a round only for the punter to go back and check what someone wanted. It left me standing like a lemon while other people were waiting. There are ways around it but with new tills it made it harder to serve someone else. I'd add indecisive people to this. Getting all fancy about drinks - for example substituting 'ding dong' for bell's or 'low flier' for Grouse. Muppets, it's easier to say the actual words and you also don't look a prat at the same time. Tapping coins at the bar. Refusing to put the money into the outstretched hand of the barman. What's that all about? Chucking your money on the bar makes you look stupid and rude. I noticed that the people who did it were the ones who were complained when I did it back to them. To even things up barmen/barmaids who constantly chat and are completely oblivious to anyone waiting also winds me up.

I saw the documentary and bought my Dad the book on the strength of it. I haven't had the chance to read it yet but he really enjoyed it. I felt that the documentary could probably have been streched out over a series and been better for it.

I'd have to agree with 'girl like you' - I hated it and couldn't understand the attraction. I always lump it in with 'Because you're gorgeous' by Babybird (I think) probably because they were out around the same time. Anyway I hate both. Similarly I've never liked any Red hot Chilli Peppers songs either. I also annoy people by continuing to think Foo Fighters are just a modern day Bon Jovi. My worst song has to be 'More than words' by Extreme. Pretentious twaddle that makes me want to throw up over the lead singer again and again and again.