Hamilton Saint

Indeed. It was the training college for juvenists. I went to St Mary's in 1964-65 and 1969.

St. Edward's College at Cheswardine Hall, about five miles south-east of Market Drayton.

Merry Christmas from Canada. (And for you Salop residents, I went to boarding school in Shropshire from 1965-1968!).

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose." (Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr, 1849)

So this is what we get to look forward to every time the team goes through a difficult spell - finding scapegoats to belittle and demean. With regards to the specifics in this thread, would you care to explain how these "indisputable" weaknesses are unimprovable. And what indisputable strengths does he have that prompts Koeman to keep picking him?

Ha, ha! Good one.

That would do it! As is often the case with classical music, we tend to prefer the first version we heard — the one that attracted us to the piece in the first place. Even though there are better recorded, and better mastered, versions of the following works, I still like to listen to these recordings that I first heard in the mid-60s: Yehudi Menuhin doing the Mendelssohn Violin Concerto; Solomon doing the Grieg Piano Concerto; and Rudolph Serkin doing Beethoven's Emperor Concerto. One of the downfalls, in a way, of repetitive listening? P.S. I'm gonna check out the Upshaw version. Thanks!

Bravo! Beautiful music. I have the Netania Davrath version (recorded in 1963). One of the very best versions, IMHO!

I see. Sick and tired of being sick and tired.

1. Bates 2. McMenemy 3. Adkins 4. Hoddle 5. Strachan 6. Koeman 7. Pardew

Damn. Against the run of play!

Irrelevant points.

I just did. You seem to want to have it both ways. You clearly are critical of what JC did during the ceremony. No?

I don't think so. That's not the way I read all of your comments in the same vein.

You would rather he read some "pro-war", jingoistic verse by Rupert Brooke — the sort of patriotic nonsense that the establishment (and the public) applauded in the early days of WWI — when everyone was gung-ho about the conflict? By the end of the war, most of the combatants realised that the whole effort was a futile and criminal enterprise. The almost-universal refrain at the end of that war was "Never again!" The poems that matter, then, from WWI are those from the likes of of Wilfred Owen, Siegfried Sassoon, Edmund Blunden, Isaac Rosenberg, Rupert Graves, and Edward Thomas. Poems that remind us (on Remembrance Day) about the reality of war — and about its futility. They are needed to counter the stirring, patriotic sentiments that are often full of empty rhetoric and delusion. But there are still reactionaries who want to justify — even glorify — the futile sacrifice of such warfare. This was clearly evident in the lead up to the WWI centenary, when revisionists talked about the need — back then — to protect the homeland, and to struggle for freedom against the demonic Hun. The need for an "anti-war" element in any Remembrance Day ceremony is clear: our children must know about the reality of war; and our leaders (political and military) must know that they are accountable — and must not sacrifice our young people on behalf of a lie. And the anti-war message, of course, is not an insult to "everyone who attended". You'll find that many agree with the notion that one can both honour our war-dead AND decry the obscenity of organised warfare. That includes many veterans. ... If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,— My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori. — Wilfred Owen

It's true here in Canada: no sausage roll; no Cornish pasty. But you can get samosas and tyropitas and spanikopitas. It's a travesty!

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But Mane and Tadic switched sides a couple of times.

Saint George is clearly Sarnia Saint.

I understand every little bit of "What part of 'It's none of your god damned business don't ya'll understand'." And I don't agree with any part of it, either. And neither do you; because you then go on an extended rant about the "ongoing Islamic colonization of the UK" — which, following your logic, is "none of your god damned business" either. N'est-ce pas?

Take a look at this graphic: it shows the details about 994 mass-shootings (i.e., four or more shot) in 1004 days in the U.S. It has a simple, but effective, visual impact. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence

My wife and I will be there next week (Oct 13-17); we're staying in the San Polo area.

What I don't understand is why Saints Player starts so late for many away games. For Saturday's game against Chelsea, for example, it didn't begin until 5 minutes before kick-off. Why?

I do, too ... this week!!

Nonetheless he says very complimentary things about Saints and the three Saints players he picked, and he makes some great comments about Mourinho!