VectisSaint

Used to be that managers were sacked after losing to us, now its before and after. Klopp better watch out.

Andy Townsend is embarrassing. They obviously didn't want our players to read the note Tyrone picked it up from the ground and stuffed it down his sock after one of his team had chucked it away beside the goal.

Yes, seriously. Take off your rose tinted specs. Gave the ball away on numerous occasions, was no threat going forwards and was defensively all over the place. He is 18,he is going to have poor games sometimes, it's not a criticism, just an honest assessment. Over 90 minutes we were not that special last night, but fought well to hang on to our narrow lead.

Had three or four tonight, McCarthy hopefully gave him a roasting. He was sound defensively otherwise, but his backpasses were absolutely shocking, reminded me of Wesley. Tino also had a very poor game, perhaps the hype is beginning to affect him. Stuey was also absolutely shocking (and I'm one of his greatest advocates), doesn't look to have regained his fitness, the sitter that he skied in the first half was just awful. Think otherwise everyone played well, perhaps not outstanding, KWP was excellent first half but Villa reigned him in 2nd.

Not all conjecture. The time frame is governed I believe by FIFA/UEFA standards on buy back clauses. My understanding is that the buying club are protected for at least 2 years. There has to be some protection otherwise no one in their right mind would agree to a deal where the selling club can just click their fingers whenever they want.

Why would you field just 9 Lyancos?

It didn't make any difference last week when Smith was also without Ings, played same formation as previous game (at least while they had 11 men).

That's a weird picture. What is he doing?

It's not the English Premier League. It is "The Premier League" (often referred to as the English Premier League or the EPL). The legal name is the Football Association Premier League Limited (note not the English Football Association). It cannot become less English. Sorry to be pedantic.

Quite, we'll see what occurs in January, but it doesn't look too promising. He had all the makings of a decent, if not spectacular player, but fate has not dealt him a kind hand.

Wasn't aware that Sam McQueen had left. Where did you hear this?

B Team 1 up against Villa at Staplewood. Tella pen.

Armstrong actually had a good game today, assist for the goal and also set up Adams for the missed sitter. He was very creative and showed a lot of skill in and around the box. As an atta king midfielder he was excellent, but as a central striker, which is his role, he fluffed his lines so many times, not getting any of his efforts on target (albeit with some deflections not helping) is a problem. As part of a strike pair with Broja or Adams he is very effective, but has to start contributing some goals himself. I think they will come.

Actually ended 3-2, Bragg was sent off 5 minutes from the end. They were joint top as it stood, but now 4th after other games completed, one point adrift of the leaders (Fulham)

It was Europe, the quotes (or at least quotes of the quote) are still out there, amongst others. Regards Pele, I was only conjucturing why Busby said Europe and not the World, to be honest there weren't that many greats "outside Europe" at the time, most wore Brazilian shirts and based on 1966 they were not that great anyway (by 1970 that all changed of course). I don't think Pele was a Centre Forward in the same sense as Big Ron, by any means, as players they were chalk and cheese, I think Pele could have played alongside Ron in a "forward line" that also contained Sydenham, Paine and Channon 🙂 https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2013-05-29/ron-davies-an-appreciation https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/30/ron-davies-obituary

Couldn't score at this time of the year when he was "in his prime", chances that he could score now as a pensioner is remote at best.

Ron Davies was the best centre forward in Europe, and that was according to no less than Sir Matt Busby. Would Pele have been considered a better centre forward which would have prevented Busby saying "best in the world". They were very different players, but I guess if Pele was considered a CF then Big Ron would have to have settled for 2nd place. I think he was the world's best at what he did at the time (1966/67 season in particular). 37 goals in one season for a team that leaked goals like a sieve was no mean feat. Still annoys me that the Club did not fully recognise his stature during his lifetime.

Hope Chelsea go on and win it, always feel better losing to eventual winners (unless it's in the final of course)

Exactly, no recall allowed for outfield players, has to go through two transfer windows. There is a report doing the rounds attributed to goal.com, that Chelsea have a clause in the agreement that they could recall during the January window. I think this is bullshit. Clubs cannot put clauses in contracts that would deliberately contravene PL/FA rules. This has only come about because Chelsea have lost 2 strikers to injury, but they showed on the weekend (v Norwich) and last night that it really isn't an issue.

Completely wrong. Recalls from season-long loans are no longer allowed in the Premier League under any circumstances. The only exception to this is for goalkeepers. The rules for loans have changed several times in the last few years, but at the moment this is the case. Apart from arrangements to do with who pays the player and how much, the conditions of a loan are not arrangements between two clubs, they are subject to very clear rules set out by the Premier League.

He made our goal, but KWP gets the assist (for a very good piece of work) and Che gets the glory. Only saw the 2nd half but he didn't do much wrong that I could see.

Made by Valery, assist to KWP, tap in by Che.

Carabao Cup tonight so he should be fine.

Do you get more points for a good save than a marginally good one? A save is a save is a save. What is a marginally good save anyway. As for opposing strikers shooting against him pre-match, that would be interesting, but I would think the opposing strikers are more likely to be buzzing about shooting against him during the match itself. One of the daftest posts I have read on here, and that's saying something.

Thought he was OK yesterday. His distribution was not good (awful one to put Salisu in trouble) but otherwise did nothing wrong. He will never be s great keeper, but he's clearly the best we have, wouldn't be surprised to see a new keeper in January.