Saint_Ash

It would seem to me that atletico couldn't afford the buyout clause which meant the only way they could get maximum from him was to sell him to spurs then pay us the money otherwise they were stuck with receiving 6.8m from us and that's it. Athletico being greedy. Not sure why we should just go to them with more money when we had an agreement in place, who cares how much he's worth, his value increased because he played for us. I hope we stick to our guns and rinse athletico and maybe spurs for all they can.

There's the principal of it all, one club can't shaft another and think they can get away with it, we're not little old Southampton anymore and if we have a contract with another club they will have to fulfill their obligations. There's probably a number of ways this can go, they pay the compensation we're owed and we go away and let Toby be a spurs player. We try and get a specific performance order to force through the contract that was signed, in effect pay the 6.8m and Toby is our player or there is a load of mess and no one knows what will happen. Do we own the player registration though? As The9 was pointing out, he is legally our player now, can we stop him going anywhere else?

I'm sure if everything on offer to Toby, wages, bonuses etc, were all equal between saints and spurs he'll join us but it's not going to be equal and he'll go where there's more money on offer.

So what if atlico have an agreement with spurs, I'd be surprised I'd they didn't. It's the agreement with saints that we need and from the info from monk that looks likely over the next day or so. People need to relax.

It's going to come down to what Toby wants. I'm sure the club will meet the valuation and try their best.

Spurs will pay Toby more than we will unfortunately so depends by how much and if Toby views it as a monetary decision. Just got to hope koeman can work his magic.

Good,our back up to tobes

Double post

If we have had a bid accepted by AM the the phone call us very important!

More like tempting fate

From snippets I've read it seems that Spurs want to do cash+player exchange which will free up some of their dross but we're offering straight cash which Atletico prefers.

Could be why we're not in the market for him.

Who's that Richard bloke and 12m euro's? That would be the bargain of the century!

And pretty cheap to get to from soton airport I assume, like Amsterdam is. The airport must be the deciding factor for any Dutch players coming over.

The new forest is amazing, unappreciated by most of the inhabitants of Southampton I reckon, I rarely go to the town centre but don't mind a long drive into the forest.

If footballers are employees of the club they will pay tax as a normal employee would, if they are self employed it's a different matter and they probably put most of their salary into a pension whatever status to increase the tax bands.

We've gone from 4-1 to 7-4. I think we might just get him!

I suppose its subjective but with the added Euro Competition there's a few permutations.

Give me top ten and a trophy any day of the year. That would be fantastic!

LOLZ! Spurs fans aren't liking the arrogance of some the Saints fans, they may have a point. DT, you're mentioned in here! http://www.thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/summer-2015-transfer-window-discussion-thread.13285/page-458

Didn't he fail it due to his heart defect or something?

When the thread calms down and people stop posting it will drift away...

I was just about to say the same. Looks well good.

I think there's a limit we're willing to bid and if Spurs know it then they just bid more. The club will look at it with less emotion than us fans and will take into account his injury record when thinking about a valuation. If we miss out on him I have faith the club will bring someone else in who can do a job.