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Apparently they can also be detected by using very long wavelength radar, although that's from Wiki, so it's up to you to believe it.

Great news. Nice one Damon!

I was looking at it purely from a playing staff point of view. I know the cash from those sales went towards keeping us afloat, and that the recent transfers have been funded by Marcus. My point is that we've had to spend that money just to make the squad as "good" as it was last year. We've lost Surman, Saeijs, DMG, Skacel, Euell and BWP from last years squad. The first four at least were decent players and all of them needed replacing. The spending was needed to bring a crap squad up to scratch, as opposed to taking a decent squad and turning it into a world beater.

On here please. Saints missing Davis, Connolly may be fit.

Calm down dear, our net spending is f**k all so far. We sold Surman for £1.5m, DMG for £1m and Dyer for £400k. We've bought Lambert for £1m, Hammond for £400k and a few free transfers. I don't get your obsession with Saints being the Man City of League 1.

The F117 was shot down because when it opened it's bomb doors, the radar would light up like a Christmas tree. The bomb bay, or Mumbai as it is now know, wasn't stealthy and the Serbs knew this. Also I think the JSF (F35 Lightning as it is now know) is one heck of a lot cheaper than the other two you mentioned.

I was born in Grantham hospital whilst she was there, although I think it was a year or two before she started killing.

That's sort of the point of this thread, Buzzkill.

I'd have said Antonio was worth half that TBH. That's what we sold Dyer for and Reading are skint.

I think I'll also do the traditional, 'bring back Andrejs "Shev" Pereplyotkins' on this thread too. Another Baltic type who always turns out pretty good on FM is Estonian winger Sander Puri. Available on a free I think after leaving Levadia Tallinn. Had trials at Dortmund and actually has a trial at Celtic this week. Maybe a bit ambitious, but would be good.

I'd sign Antonio and Trotman, not Waigo. Personally I'd bring back Jan Paul Saeijs on a free. I'd bring in a decent young RB. Two strikers one with bags of pace, the other a beanpole. A left winger, again with pace. I would sell Gillett and give Pulis, Saga, Forecast, Molyneux and Holmes away for free. I'm in two minds about adding Perry to that list. He has been good against some of our crapper opponents this season, but found wanting against anyone remotely big or fast. Couple of other HCDAJFUs: Aleksanders Cauna - 21 - Skonto - Midfielder. Scored against us on loan to Watford last year. Raio Piiroja - Fredrikstand FK - 30 - 6'3" Centre half. Goes to training on a boat. Good in the air and determined.

I'm guessing that's down to the trijets having a higher service ceiling. What can the 900s do, 50,000ft plus wasn't it? The absolute ceiling of most commercial airliners is restricted by the structural limitations of the pressurisation on the cabin. The actual service ceiling is trypically much lower due to coffin corner.

The MOD it top heavy with retards IMO. Anyone remember the TSR2? Would have been the best attack aircraft in the world and was decades ahead of it's time. Could have made a fortune selling that to other countries. I'm sure the Nimrod MRA4 is brilliant, but it could have been a lot better and cheaper on a newer airframe.

Sounds highly unlikely to me too. I suppose it is hypothetically possible if you were to come in from the North Pole at VERY low altitude. However the dambusters aircraft were detected and shot at flying low down, by much less sophisticated surveillance equipment.

If I was picking the drivers I'd take Fisi and Kobayashi. Ferrari engines (possibly going back to the Petronas rebadging) and Panasonic sponsorship? That would be brilliant, although I'm guessing Heidfeld is still top of their shopping list. Now there's a livery.

Well I've moved from Scotland to Bristol, so I'm getting to a lot more games than I used to. Been to 11 already this season, which is already more than last year. Nothing to do with Saints performances, but it is nice that the two have coincided. Infact I moved here the day before we beat Gillingham 4-1 and have been winning ever since.

I see that and raise you: (It's not mine )

The extra engines are widely regarded to use between 8 and 12 percent more fuel than the 777. There are also extra maintenance considerations. Having 4 engines is a hinderance in the commercial market, but for combat aircraft it is invaluable. On a twin jet it's pretty much strike one and you're out. You can carry on flying, typically at an altitude of around 25,000ft depending on the aircraft and it's weight, but I sure as heck wouldn't want to loiter over hostile territory on one engine. The original A340's first flew in '91 I think. They can be picked up dirt cheap at the moment. Alternatively you could by a brand new, factory fresh -500 series at a knock down price due to lack of demand. The 340 is a fantastic aircraft, but the 10% extra fuel burn is a real killer in the airline market. There is also the advantage of being able to hang the latest engine technology under the wings in 20 years time. With the Nimrod they've pretty much had to rebuild the inboard wing section to accomodate the new engines.

Raikkonen joins the Citroen World Rally Team.

The Boeing 777 only uses two engines and is therefore more efficient. Either of them would sh*t all over a Nimrod in that dept however.

You could pick up an A340 dirt cheap from Airbus as the airlines dont want them. Very modern design, 4 engines (an advantage in a combat scenario), more efficient than anything in the RAF, can stay in the air forever and a day without refueling (again a massive opperational advantage and will save tens of millions in opperating costs), spares are readily and cheaply available from Airbus and to top it all the wings (and possibly engines) are made in the UK. I'm sure the Nimrod will be very capable, but f**k me that's a lot of money. Especially when the boys on the front line are desperately under-equiped.

Andriy Shevchenko has also crashed his car.

Hardly surprising but now official: http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2009/Pages/f1_sauber.aspx Great news IMO. Toyota wasted hundreds of millions getting nowhere. Sauber acheived almost as much success on a fraction of the budget. They were regularly in the points in the late '90s on a Minardi sized budget. They were always one of my favourite teams, fantastic to see them back.

Must admit I was slightly perplexed at the MOD's decision to base their next generation maritime patrol aircraft on a 50 year old airframe. I'm guessing the decision was made to support BAE, but realistically it was a financial disaster. Especially when there is no scope for selling aircraft to foreign countries. P.S. That thing drinks fuel.

Will, you should learn to play a real sport like darts.