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Centralist party attempts to attract voters from around it shocker!! You should work for the mail. Lets take the immigration point for starters. Exactly what is wrong with saying 'We will have an amnesty for those that have been here 10 years but put in place more controls to stop more illegal immigration'. Both quite sensible and complementary and yet you appear to think their are not?

When viewed from his own unique version of reality....

As also it says somewhere else in the guardian there are only a few places in the world which still use first past the past including the paragon on economic stability Greece. Strangely stable coalition government does not make the same front page story as the occasional collapsing one. Coalitions almost always have problems when one large group needs the support of one or more considerably smaller groups to survive. In the case of the UK however its looking more and more likely that any coalition will have to involve 2 of the 3 major parties (in reality LD/Con or LD/Lab). That's to say that given the current polls neither Con or Lab would be able to get enough smaller party (e.g. SNP) to form a majority. If that is the case then I think a coalition of just two relatively equal (in terms of votes anyway) parties will be more stable.

The Daily Mail had a poll asking who won the debate. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/polls/poll.html?pollId=1017189 When they didn't like the results, they started a new one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/polls/poll.html?pollId=1017190

If only there was a way of spending more money on the armed forces without increase our defence spending? I am sure there must be some area we could get the money from but I am too busy building my nuclear fallout shelter for when the Chinese attack to try and figure out where.....

You appear to be mistaking not renewing trident with having no nuclear deterrent.

Laughing at the right wing media... 1) Daily mail holding a poll on who would be the best chancellor but giving Ken Clarke as the Tory option. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/polls/poll.html?pollId=1017187 2) The Sun deciding that all the results of a poll they commission that did not meet their agenda were all part of 'too many results to publish here'. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sun-censored-poll-that-showed-support-for-lib-dems-1951940.html Latter one is interesting as it confirms previous polls that if people thought the lib-dems could win they would vote for them in large numbers. Problem for Clegg is can he solve that chicken and egg conundrum.

Basically a score draw but in part due to a homer of a referee (Wonder if Rupert ask him to, against the agreed rules, bring up the newspaper headlines?) From the guardian blog 11.20pm: For the record, we've now had five instant polls. Here are the results. Populus have revised their figures. (The ones I quoted earlier were provisional). They are now putting Cameron ahead. Here are all five sets of results Times/Populus - Cameron won Cameron: 37% Clegg: 36% Brown: 27% Guardian/ICM - Clegg won Clegg: 33% Cameron: 29% Brown: 29% ITV/ComRes - Clegg won Clegg: 33% Brown: 30% Cameron: 30% Angus Reid - Clegg won Clegg: 35% Cameron: 33% Brown: 23% YouGov - Cameron won Cameron: 36% Clegg: 32% Brown: 29% And here's an average of all five polls Clegg: 33.8% Cameron: 33% Brown: 27.6% Angus Reid has now issued revised figures. They still show Clegg ahead, but not by as much as the early figures did. Clegg: 33% Cameron: 32% Brown: 23% I've recalculated the average of all five polls using these updated figures. Clegg is still ahead, but only by a fraction. Clegg: 33.4% Cameron: 32.8% Brown: 27.6%

I think the, somewhat odd, ruling that went against HMRC was that the money the club used to pay off the football debt was in some way discretionary. i.e. they HAVE to pay everyone the 20p in the pound once it has been agreed but they can, at their discretion, pay the extra to those with football debts (I think!?). What this does I think though is unfairly bias the vote on accepting the CVA as all those with football debts will accept any value as they know that in all likelihood (assuming pompey don't go pop) they will get 100% anyway.

Polls after the debate apparently show more tories changing their vote to the libdems than for labour.

Actually he is behind as he has already, rightly, been called up by the other parties for whining about the format which his own party agreed to when they were being set up.

I think that timing for exiting administration is quite reasonable. After all a company that has been wound up will have exited administration, if not in the right direction.

But you forget that most rules don't apply to them! Cos they are 'special' (as in needs probably).

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Would have bitten of the arm of anyone offering a Huddersfield draw at the start of the evening so not too upset. yet...

But it is also possibly a fallacy to believe we can break away politically and yet for that to have no effect what so ever on our trading relationships with Europe?

At least things might change there. Here in Cambridgeshire we have the officially most boring election in prospect. Map now: 99.9% certainly of map post election.

Good news - Because chances are if we had a coalition in charge it would not include the Tories Actually this thread will probably end up with the usual debate where those in favour of PR will highlight countries where things go well where there is no overall party in power and those against will highlight countries where it does not go well. --- Also to some extent it depends on how 'hung' the parliament is. If say Labour plus the LibDems combined had a majority of 30 or so then it could work okay. If however either Lab or Con have to try to get a group of other parties together to get a small overall majority it will almost certainly be short lived and back to the polls we will go.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/portsmouth-cup-final-spots-to-be-auctioned-201004122633/ Administrator Martin Bishop said: "This is a fantastic opportunity to take your place among a team that has for much of the season consisted mainly of amputated body parts and bruised fruit. "I'm sure a Portsmouth-Chelsea cup final will be a thrilling, visceral occasion - much like watching a pack of hyenas devour the last remaining shreds of an elderly, bankrupt gazelle."

To some extent I think it would be funny if labour got back in and then got stuck into Murdoch and his empire like properly funding the information commissioner so he could prosecute the Sun and NoW for the phone tapping scams. Hell, I might even have a chance of getting sky sports in HD on cable!!

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Probably should be LibDem but like tactical voting it appears to be tactically supporting Labour to try to keep the Tories out.

I have added the obvious missing words...

I suppose it has to be weighted by the fact that people generally have a low opinion of Brown so a bad performance by him might not affect peoples opinions on which party they are going to vote for that much (Lab trying very hard to distance party/policies from leader to get people to vote more on the former than the latter) whereas a bad performance from Cameron could have a larger effect?

Which is always the easy get out with Paxman as that's his modus operandi in interviews. Though to be fair when someone like Cameron says 'Not letting him answer the question properly' often it means 'not letting me finish making a statement about something subtly different rather than answering the actually question'.