The Kraken

Agreed. I see this place hasn't changed where the usual delicate flowers get all riled up about any perceived criticism of the club/side. Yoshida shouldn't be anywhere near the right back spot. When he's keeping Cedric out there's clearly something wrong. Brett has come in for some unwarranted abuse this time.

Given how much grief Sturrock gets for his time with us, the results he achieved weren't actually terrible. 13 games in charge, 5 wins, 2 draws and 6 defeats; not great by any stretch but over the course of a season would comfortably see you mid table. And he was sacked following a win (against Blackburn). The real crime was replacing him with Steve f*cking Wigley, as clueless and inept a top level manager as there ever has been.

Who is saying anything "went wrong" with him. That's the standard and simplistric response to anyone who criticised him in any way at all for certain aspects of what he was doing and how he was doing. Personally I'm very glad he's not at SFC right now. He did a brilliant job with the team and building behind the scenes with the training ground. He also made some big errors with over-spending and his promises to have the club running on an even financial keel, which just wasn't going to happen. Being as Kat wasn't prepared to fund the financial shortfall any more some big changes were needed. The current team at the top have taken all the good things that were built up and they have continued/improved them further them, while they have also improved the club and operations in other areas. SFC feels more inclusive these days whereas Cortese made it feel like " his baby", his own personal fiefdom.

Don't listen to bridge too far; keep going please, this is good stuff.

What used to be Chambers is now called Sadler's Brew House & Barbeque, I've only eaten there once but it was decent fare. Rockstone Burgers are pretty immense, to be fair. Or if you fancy something a bit different try Mexigo on London Road; you can eat in there and buy a beer to wash it down with. The pulled pork burrito is pretty lovely (and I still need to learn how they wrap the bloody things like they do).

There was certainly some brilliant wailing from some quarters, all on the first couple of pages. And from some pretty hilarious sources. Alpine's meltdown was absolutely brilliant, reading it back again now :lol:

Honey roasted cashews. Pistachios. Macadamias.

I'd disagree with that part. For the second goal Vardy just smashed it; if the keeper stays on his feet he saves it. Kelvin seemed to just flop to the ground and get out of the way by doing it. Agree with that. Kelvin has been great for us, but he's not up to the task of the Premier League and shouldn't have been put in there. More fool Saints for not having an adequate replacement. And if Gazzaniga isn't that person he shouldn't be here.

Just for the avoidance of doubt on "limey hating" Saint George. He is, of course, a limey. In his own words from the Moving to USA thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?38012-Moving-to-the-USA&p=1366579#post1366579

You're only exposing your inability to understand the rules. The attacker must not make some attempt to do anything; the foul is judged by the challenge of the defender/keeper. If the attacker has to deviate from his course to the detriment of the attack then it is a foul/penalty. The rule has evolved in the past 5 years. Falcao definitely didn't help himself by going to ground too early. But just like Macmanaman against Targett, it should have been a penalty. The referee got it wrong, as he got loads wrong. The pucdits in the studio with the benefit of replay called it a penalty.

It was a penalty. Clearly. Falcao didn't help himself by going down slightly early but if he hadn't he would still have been cleaned out by the keeper. Which makes it a penalty under the current laws; it's not the laws from years ago, you don't have to be totally upended for it to be a justifiable penalty. If the attacker has to jump out of the way of a foul to not get struck but misses his opportunity to strike then its still a penalty.

That was the ultimate show that he was influenced by Chelsea and massively favoured them all day. They were wrong, the ball was positioned fine, but he had to appease them and made a massive thing of running over when he could have asked the linesman. Spineless.

Seriously, how flipping lazy are our fanbase? There's been multiple requests for a train platform by the stadium; there's already Southampton Central which is a short walk across town. Then you have Woolston, St Denys and Bitterne close by. F*ck it, when I'm a billionaire I'll make all you fat lazy f*ckers a monorail to get around on.

1) Extend the Kingland to make a 40K stadium and drop prices so we'd have a chance of actually filling it. 2) Buy the land opposite and build a collection of bars and restaurants on the waterfront. 3) Ban anyone from St. Mary's who turns up in face paint, jester hats, half and half scarves or football shirts over hoodies. 4) Put statues of MLT, Lawrie Mac and Terry Paine outside each stand and name the stands after them (with Ted making the 4). 5) Sort out the beer queues in the concourses with many more kiosks, beer backpacks, whatever. And sell decent booze.

And you're absolutely welcome to it, mush. But freedom also includes freedom of speech and expression, so don't be surprised that many outside your borders look in with increased amazement at the backwards nature of the culture there and make further comment on it. Having been to more than 40 of the states in America in my lifetime, I consider myself pretty experienced in the way of life of America and its citizens. And I'm still genuinely amazed at the level of vitriol and anger that many of the residents will retreat to when it's suggested that the love of guns that infects the country (and of course the amount of dim-witted imbeciles in charge of those guns) is the primary reason USA has such a tragically high death level from firearms. The "I want my grandmother to have a handgun to defend herself" argument is quite possibly the saddest yet most consistent line I've heard trotted out, yet it's one that gets laboured time and time and time again. On the flip side there are many Yanks I've met who aren't thick and ignorant, and who rightly agree that guns are massively out of control and need to start to be reigned in. Sadly those on the other side of the argument refuse to even budge on the fact that their arsenal of weapons is in any way unsafe. And so it will go on; simply too introverted, too ignorant and too resistant to change to realise the benefits of an alternate way of life. But yeah. In the mean time we'll stick with our version of pointing out the downright obvious, if that's alright with you guys of course

I'd suggest it's about as enforceable as using a mobile phone while driving.

They actually do give penalties for intent, yes. If you have to hurdle a slide then it can be given as a foul. I've not seen it yet so I'll wait to comment. But your premise is wring, if the player has to significantly alter his course to avoid a tackle that doesn't play the ball, it's a foul.

Fair play to Tony Pulis about the penalty:

Hats off, St. George. I considered it impossible that Sarnia Saint could be replaced by someone even more dim witted, ignorant and lacking in self awareness. But you've proved me well and truly wrong, I humbly admit my error. Chapeau.

No pal, just making use of free shiz.

It sure does

Pretty much agree with all of that. There was a lot of anger at the loss of so many players over two summers; a sense of "why do no other clubs lose so many players?" Well no other clubs of our size had lit up the Premier League since we arrived with a free flowing style of football and then finished 8th and 7th. The players at clubs who finished lower than that were, quite simply, not as good as our players and therefore not as attractive to the bigger clubs. So they kept them. It's the downside of the relative success of finishing higher up the table, the better we do the more our players are in the shop window. And unless we start lashing around wages of £70k, £80k, £100K a week then more often than not, we're not going to be able to fend off those approaches. As CBF says, I'm perfectly alright with that. It will mean that some years will be less successful than others and we'll finish in the lower half. That gives a stable platform to rebuild and improve; again I have no problem with that approach. It's when the club start devaluing the cups that I would have a problem. Koeman really doesn't do that, so we're in good hands for as long as we can keep him.

Right, I've missed this argument. But it sounds juicy. Can someone sum it up in short size lumps that a fool like me would understand? Or, better still, point me to the actual original. This sounds fun.

Agreed all round. I thought the transfer fee for him was incredible, I wasn't overly impressed with him. A terrible injury though that you'd wish on no-one, hope he recovers well.

How does it work Lungs; do I need to find a builder first? I did look into it at the turn of the year, and had a builder lined up. I got the Totton branch to come out and measure up etc. and price me up. Since then I decided I didn't want quite the design and my builder told me couldn't do it, and still can't. I've been reluctant to go back to the Totton branch lest they think I'm mucking them about. But I still want the same type of kitchen they planned (minor changes to make), so there's already something to work with.