Whitey Grandad

To be fair, there is a much longer soporific list on another thread...

Vox populi, vox deo.

Then why have we in England been run by the Scottish mafia for the last 13 years?Both Prime Ministers and every important cabinet post has been a Scot.

It was down to Clinton who 'encouraged' the mortgage banks to lend to people who couldn't afford the repayments. The problem for us is that Brown had spent and borrowed so much that we cannot ride out the economic storms.

In England? And how are we going to measure the desires of the electorate? Shall we have a vote on it?

Yes, once every 30 or 40 years they get to have their say.

It's a loan, not a gift, and it's at a good rate.

That means that the £ gets weaker and we all get poorer as a result.

They have influence and even a little power. What more could they want?

I might not have put it so eloquently but my sentiments lie the same way. There are a lot of very able people in the Labour Party. Unfortunately Brown and his clansmen are not amongst them.

If the rumour gathers enough momentum then he will have to resign anyway.

After adjustment for inflation? We boomed and then we busted.

That's no way to talk about female members of the government. [-X

??? We're back to where we were 10 years ago.

Well, none of them has a mandate...

They've broken pledges before. Besides, they don't have a mandate for their manifesto so they could do what they liked.

You have to take the present recession together with the previous boom which was unsustainable and built on borrowed money.

I always wash it after a wee. It dangles in the loo water and you don't know where that's been.

That might do it, but I don't think they can prevaricate beyond today.

I thin that VFTT and Dune are a perfect example of why PR could never achieve anything.

Osbourne is a problem but chancellor might be too much for Cable who could get Business Secretary. There would have to be something for Clegg, any ideas?

They might have to.

More likely to be Ken Clarke. Cable has some ridiculous proposals on stealing pensions, but only from the private sector, and a 'wealth' tax.

And Callaghan?

The same could be said about Black Wednesday, but there is no argument that if you give away something cheaply you have lost out. If he had not sold the gold, and there was no need to at the time, then we could sell it now and get much more for it.