Whitey Grandad

I'm depressed too! I left the telly on the Sky channel and saw the Spanish football that was on later. That was on a different planet.

I prefer kick-offs at 3:00 on a Saturday but I miss the tv coverage. I would enjoy it all a lot more if I felt that we had a chance of competing in this league but at the moment there is a dimension missing from our game. I'm not sure what it is, maybe it's physical presence?

My concern is that we seem to be getting worse and more disorganised at the back as each game goes by. We shall have a better idea of our situation after the two games this week but already our thin squad is looking very threadbare.

The comment from the Sky commentators was that Poortvliet had said that QPR only played with one up front so he wanted central defenders who could bring the ball out of defence. I just want central defenders who can defend. - oh, and some fullbacks.

Is that confirmed? That'll be most of the season gone then. Chin up Lee! Your club needs you.

Well said. Perhaps we should start making a list of those teams that we think we might stand a chance against.

I'm getting old. The point is, Hoddle had his chance and he dumped us when it suited him. He only used us to get back in to management. Even WGS left us once his payoff from Coventry came through and he could afford to get his hip fixed.

Because Hoddle dumped us for his 'spiritual home'.

There are some who said the same about Lowe.

I know how you feel. I shall be there Wednesday, of course, but it's like being at the bedside of a loved one who is seriously ill.

Precisely. I think that JVP was the wrong appointment but to dump him now would be foolish and premature. Besides, he is only implementing the will of the Lowe.

I wouldn't disagree that he could potentially do a job for us in such a situation. Where I do take issue with you is that he, and only he, could have saved us from relegation.

There are several world class tossers out there. He was certainly a 'world class' player, but as a manager he was nothing special.

Can he play centre half?

You will find it difficult to find any players that liked or respected Hoddle when they played under him. One quote was 'if he were made of chocolate he would eat himself'.

Pathetic! You constantly state that we would not have been relegated with Hoddle in charge - although you can't prove it and nobody can ever disprove it - and then go on from that to infer that nobody else could have saved us from relegation. By that argument every club that did not appoint Hoddle would have been relegated.

As a defensive system, it's not working very well, is it?

Quite right - that's the fullback's job.

I will always defend a fellow official but that decision was very poor. We're not talking about a fast-moving situation with players moving in all sorts of directions. This was a free-kick FFS.

Both feet were off the ground. He was completely out of control.

Straight red, no problem 'Reckless with excessive force'.

I think you'll find that it was.

To whom?

Let's see how big the crowd is next week before we make comments like that. This club is now financed almost entirely through gate receipts and if we carry on with the 'cheap' option we shall end up with the cheap result.

You took the words right out of my mouth. (well, keyboard actually)