Whitey Grandad

My thoughts too, but just imagine what a great atmosphere we could have in there.

How about 16 year olds, they did in the Scottish referendum. Why not 14 year olds? They could easily be 18 by the time we actually leave the EU. I have a granddaughter who turned 18 days after the vote, when will she have the opportunity to have her say on the matter? If it had been a general election she could have her vote in a few years time. How many oldies will have died before the exit? Should anybody over 65 have had a vote? These are all reasonable questions. Our democratic system deemed that we should have an advisory referendum and it is for that system to take account of all these considerations. But I return to my original point. It was by no means a majority of the people in the country. (Incidentally my grandmother was 42 before she was allowed to vote)

I think 'no brainier' is a perfect description of Joey Barton.

Never complain about a clean sheet.

Totally disagree, especially regarding those who were under 18. In normal democracy the time would soon come when they would be able to express their preference. I repeat ad infinitum; this was not normal democracy, in fact the complete antithesis of it. If it were we'd have another vote within five years. Then another. Then another...

Any idea yet as to when our tickets will be sent out? I shan't actually be at home so getting my grubby mitts on mine will be interesting.

Read my words. I repeat: the piece I quoted said 'a majority of the people' whereas it was a 'majority of those who voted'. There was quite a difference. 'Only' 17.4 million of the 60 million voted to leave. That is nowhere near a majority. This is not how democracy works. In normal democracy there is a new vote every few years so in the longer term the people tend to get what they want.

Not "the majority of people", simply a majority of those who voted. Yet another Brexit myth.

I think so too. The tickets have the Europa League branding on them.

I'm still in shock.

I can't see the pitch in that photo. Could you see anything?

Yes it was. It should have been 7

More from that article in The Times yesterday: "It is odd to relate given the two clubs’ respective league positions that many of Southampton’s players were pleased to see the back of Ronald Koeman after his departure to Everton this summer, although that may say more about them than him. The Dutchman’s distant and detached manner had begun to grate with a group accustomed to almost perpetual change in the dugout at St Mary’s, and his farewell did not cause much anguish." Matt Hughes, Deputy Football Correspondent

And let's not forget Bristol Rovers.

There's an extensive article about Koeman and his impact on Everton in The Times this morning. This sentence stuck a chord with me: He has also made it clear that the first team is his overwhelming priority, to the extent that academy players are not permitted to use the gym at the same time as first-teamers.

It doesn't work unless you mention it.

The French do nothing but rhetoric. It's what they do best. (And why are all the spellings the American version?)

Once again you demonstrate your lack of understanding of how the EU works. Juncker is just a front man, the real decisions are taken behind the scenes.

I knew it was from May, that's one of the reasons I chose it. You need to understand how to separate the European rhetoric from the European facts. In Europe everybody likes to pretend publicly that they're all in favour of this great cooperation concept but behind the scenes they all know what isn't going to happen. Just because the British tend to say what they mean doesn't mean that everybody else means what they say.

Not many nuts are actually nuts apparently. Brazil nuts are one example. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/qi/8434868/QI-Quite-interesting-facts-about-nuts.html

Does this count?

Still looks a bit heavy to me.

Yet more Brexit scaremongering. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/if-you-re-voting-for-brexit-because-you-think-british-troops-will-be-called-up-to-an-eu-army-you-ve-a7024221.html

That's a very generous and kindhearted offer.

We do but some might not. Maybe the ref was asking whether a substitution was necessary? In any case there is the question as to whether their presence might affect matters on the pitch.