Whitey Grandad

Some of ours have brown stains on them

That's anybody on this forum.

Fair point, but that was exceptional. In general league results are related to spending but that includes wages as much as contract purchases and whether we would want to or are able to go down the route of excessive spending is debatable. FFP comes into play somewhere in this.

You could sell £110m of players and buy one for £120m. That would be a net spend of £10 by the simplistic accounting method yet would still leave only one player in the squad.

Er... Haven't you just demonstrated that net spend is not relevant?

And we get paper towels at half time.

Nobody knows what was in the minds of the voters. You yourself are not able to tell us what you personally want to see as the outcome despite repeated requests.

Well said.

To start with have you allowed for agents' and lawyers' fees?

We throw away all our existing trade arrangements with the rest of the world as well when we leave the EU. We can continue to trade afterwards but it will be a lot more expensive and time-consuming. It's not all about tariffs either: http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa016.pdf#page=3 As for our glorious Ministers for Brexit they literally don't have a clue as to how to proceed: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-will-be-delayed-until-end-of-2019-6kxb7sgrr “They don’t have the infrastructure for the people they need to hire. They say they don’t even know the right questions to ask when they finally begin bargaining with Europe.” Maybe they're too busy empire-building: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-bureaucracy-will-infuriate-out-voters-xcwcmrjwg http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa016.pdf#page=3

If you really believe that then I have some Nigerian bonds that you may be interested in.

Do you really believe that we have £38million stashed away in a bank somewhere?

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What do you want. Seriously, what do you want? Do you want us to win the league, because I don't think that's going to happen. Win a domestic cup? Much of that is down to chance if you don't have a big squad. Get into a European competition? Apart from that there's not a lot else to go for. We are never going to sustainably be rubbing shoulders with the big boys.

You're forgetting that Everton at the only club with ambition.

Oh great! Now we can't afford to go abroad and we can't even go on holiday in the UK because it's full of bl**dy foreigners and the roads are crowded.

This fact is unescapable. We have thrown away our current deal with the EU and it is not going to be continued without the free movement of labour that is so detested by the Leavers. The very first trade deal that we need to negotiate before any other, anywhere in the world, is that with the EU. They are our most important and biggest customers. It was an act of complete and utter economic lunacy to throw away our current trading arrangement without any inkling whatsoever as to what would replace it. If you are happy to put your faith in David (flunky A levesl) Davis then I seriously question your judgement. Britain just does not have the people with experience to handle all these new negotiations. That is the realism of the situation.

As I said earlier, it also coincided with the commencement of the Single Market. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/10/uk-membership-european-single-market-worth-4-more-gdp-eu-referendum-economy http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/202a60c0-cfd8-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377.html#axzz4HgkPvzlY The £ also plummeted in the 2008 but it did nothing for exports. As a general briefing: http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/brexit01.pdf

Ive just got back from France and have only seen the MOTD highlights. The thing that struck me the most was how awful our new shirts are. They seem to be badly fitted, especially the upper chest where the 'bra' area is all wrinkled and creased.

I'm a realist not a pessimist. A realist is an optimist with the benefit of experience. Wishful thinking will get you nowhere. Those who say 'always look on the bright side of life' overlook the mass crucifixion that followed immediately afterwards. This was a totally unnecessary decision involving a comprehensive dismantling of our economic and trade position in the world. We were actually doing rather well but we're not going to get very far just by eating our own cheeses.

It always used to be down the bottom by King Alfred's statue on the north side but I would check with the operators.

There are no winners or losers, only losers.

After the crash in 2008 the £ plummeted but exports did not increase. Price is only one factor, there have to be customers willing to buy. The exit from the ERM also coincided with the introduction of the Single Market which is generally credited with our outstanding growth since then.

Do all three of you play golf? If so then you should be sorted.

Cup success is far more random than the league. And don't you think that every other club is trying for the same glory?