Whitey Grandad

It can't have been all that secret.

Still way down on what it used to be.

Brexit?

I think I've eaten some of that in Asda.

Man crush? Great news about Bertrand. At least somebody is pleased to be here.

I'm sure Barnsley would have him. http://www.winnersports.co.uk/confirmed-lloyd-isgrove-wants-leave-southampton-fc-barnsley-fc-16713

Thanks, Verbal. I always try to learn a new word every day and now you've given me two

The dice really are loaded in their favour. Whatever they come up with we can either walk away from the table or... ...we can leave the EU. What are we going to do, threaten not to leave? The negotiations of which you speak would not take place for several years and can only officially begin once we have actually left. In the meantime there will be one big mess of uncertainty. Where have I said that we should re-run the referendum? My reading of the situation is that the eventual settlement will need some form of public mandate and approval. Don't expect me to try to make a success of it, I'm far too old.

There is no negotiating once A50 is triggered. That's why it hasn't been triggered yet. It is unclear whether it is possible or feasible to change our minds after we have invoked it but once set in motion what negotiating power do we have? They will just say 'this is what you'll get' and if you don't like it, so what? We can't change our minds and remain, certainly not without the approval of the other member states. A further complication is that there can only be informal talks until formal notice is given. There's some discussion here: http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/the-mechanics-of-leaving-the-eu-explaining-article-50/ And one view here. I tend to agree with the first part about responsibilities. http://www.reformist.org/blog/eu-referendum/

One was mandatory, the other advisory as was written into the respective Acts.

To be honest I'm quite impressed by the efficiency of the establishment getting what it wants.

The negotiations go like this: We tell them what we'd like. They go away and talk amongst themselves. They come back and tell us what we'll get. Game over. We'd be leaving whatever. Once we trigger A50 we will have left within two years.

Yes but which one?

Exactly. We've all got to pass a lot of water before we get any idea where we wil be standing.

The other Remain MPs would support any related issues.If she doesn't get the support of enough MPs to govern then there'll be an election before a Brexit. I don't think you fully understand the difficulties of a life under WTO MFN rules.

What is not true in what I wrote? It is clear from your responses that you don't understand the process of withdrawal from the EU. And I really don't see what connection there is to a comic character who has been defunct for nearly 40 years, in fact almost as long as we have been in the EU. 'We're f*cked' is a more accurate description. Cassandra warned about the destruction of Troy. That turned out well didn't it?

Let's be honest. It's me isn't it?

From that I would assume that no General Election is likely in the immediate future, barring an unbelivable offer from the EU.

Good luck to him, perfectly understandable. Now, who do we get as a replacement?

Strong Brexit vote? Where did you see this? The country is split down the middle and the MPs (who are more representative) are strongly Remain. The only bargaining card we have is to delay Article 50. Once that is triggered then whatever we get offered is take it or leave it, no negotiating whatsoever. Being outside the Single Market is so disastrously unthinkable that some middle way will have to be found before we light the exit fuse.

Politically, yes. Econonmically, who the fook knows. That would be ok. I'd still like my little blue flag with gold stars on my driving licence and number plate please.

Confirmed on the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208 Perhaps she wanted to spend more time with her children.

This is not the same as some major industrial company setting up a new facility in the UK because the only reason it will be here is because it will be paid for by the defence budget. If you were talking about some major computer centre or suchlike then I would agree with you. A long way to go but we should expect more of this: http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/10/lush-cosmetics-moves-to-germany-because-of-brexit-5998494/

She'll have to do. Any idea what form of Brexit? Anybody?

And all paid for by the British taxpayer.