Whitey Grandad

Not very hopeful is it. Let's just dismiss it as part of Project Fear and hope for the best shall we.

Dead men walking. No authority, no power, nowhere men.

He did. The plan was to resign.

Very true. The current situation is not good for democracy as we have seen.

Whilst Osborne has been locked in a dark room with a loaded revolver?

The situation regarding EU membership is unclear to say the least. Previously they would have left the UK and would have had to apply as a new state. At the moment they are part of the UK and if there was separation it could be argued that they are already a member and that it was England etc that were leaving. Nobody knows but you can bet your boots that discreet enquiries will be taking place at the moment. In any case EU membership is just the trigger for their ambitions. This will be seen as yet another case of England telling them what to do.

The petition was set up in May apparently, not that many people knew about it.

What's to stop the Scots holding their own referendum without Westminster's permission? Imagine what would happen if London said no.

No worries, no offence taken. There are plenty of countries whose currencies shadow others so it is not impossible but would take a strong banking system. I regard all the present talk as jostling for position and influence but the threat is always there.

I too would have regarded it as unfinished business.

The problem for Labour's electability is that the MPs think he's a disaster yet the party members think he's great.

That must make it awkward to carry.

Just a winky thing, David.

Now outside the tent píssing in.

Has he ever scored one? This scaremongering is just typical of the current climate.

What was it Farage said back in May? "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."

They can use any currency they choose. Whether they actually stay in the EU or not is actually irrelevant, they will see this as England forcing something on them against their wishes and the issue will be 'Who governs Scotland?' Of course the UK hasn't broken up yet but in my view it is more likely than not. Much will depend on what happens in our negotiations with the EU next year or so and what I would expect is that referendum enabling legislation will be passed in Scotland with no date set immediately. The threat will be left hanging. Whatever, the whole debacle has been very divisive and the Union is now looking a lot weaker.

What was unlikely? The net reduction of family income over the next 15 years?

15 years wasn't it?

That's not how democracy works. In Britain it is a representative democracy where we elect delegates to take decisions on our behalf. Subsequently everybody's views are considered and there is a balanced and representative outcome. True democracy would mean that we held a referendum every few years. At what point do the 'F*cking grizzling ***ts' become significant? 5 million? 10million? The Poll Tax protests overturned a democratic decision. Let me also ask you this question: Was it worth the breakup of the UK?

Screw the lot of them I say.

What was that with the woman who wanted to leave so that we could control our own currency?

You're worse than the government. Keep having polls until you get the right answer

I met one in Hamble. "I'm not a racist. I just don't like foreigners". I kid you not.

Whatever happens there are going to be a lot of disappointed people in Burnley. Like the old chap who said that we joined Europe to make things better. He obviously doesn't realise that they are, things could have been a lot worse. Britain has thrived under EU membership. That'll soon stop. There's also the lady who says 'give it a go'. Doesn't she realise that if she doesn't like it she can't take it back? I also am struggling to see where we are 'ruled by Europe'. I never come across of it. It's amazing what people will believe.