Whitey Grandad

Interesting point. The scheme is funded by the employees and employers and all that money comes from??? Apparently there is a deficit but the amount is open to debate. http://boards.fool.co.uk/lgps-12207073.aspx

Don't forget the charges when you pay in the cash, can be 2.5%.

Ooh, you remembered! How nice of you.

But you'll pay the tax when you take your pension.

Quite correct. 3 times a single income or 3.5 times a joint income.

What pensions would they be? Am I missing something somewhere?

Because you might be well out of the country for that period.

Take your pick: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1611158/25-of-council-tax-spent-on-pensions.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1508474/26pc-of-council-tax-goes-on-public-pensions.html http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23491631-how-a-quarter-of-council-tax-goes-towards-town-hall-workers-pensions.do http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/waste/2011/05/rising-cost-council-pensions-eating-local-government-budgets.html All from a couple of years ago.

61 and 50/52ths. Does that make me the oldest fart so far?

Should that have been 'several million-pound' players, or 'several-million pound' players? I don't think we have either to be honest. I fear that next season is going to be a rude awakening. There are many established teams who look stronger than us.

A third of Council Tax goes to pay their pensions (at the moment).

That ceased to be the case a long, long time ago.

And there we can agree. Whoever is in charge of the ticketing policy really doesn't have a clue.

Then why charge extra on the day? The last few thousand seats in the stadium will usually be the less-committed supporters.

Most are cheaper, some by a large margin, and there are quite a few Premiership clubs that are cheaper (for a season of 19 games instead of 23)

Clueless amateurs.

There's no point being cost-effective if the planet's uninhabitable. (I don't believe it ever will be, by the way).

Not necessarily. There might have been even more sales if they had been handled correctly.

There can be a number of reasons for this. For example, my daughter's birthday is in June and I always used to buy her a season ticket as one of her presents. Many people are on holiday in July and out of the country. What are they supposed to do? Telephone at enormous expense? Try to get online and set up an account in Bongo-Bongo land? Look at it the other way. What possible reason could there be for not putting them on sale earlier?

Conspiracy or ****-up?

There was a whole lot more to it than that, but we don't have all night.

It's me surviving I'm worried about, not the planet.

You can't just take the raw figures and use them that way.They might have all been installed in the last month. Properly sited and installed payback time should be better than 10 years. it's tax-free and index-linked, but your money is tied up, for the payback time at least.

Fair enough, but why not start selling renewals earlier? Prices were announced some time ago.

Not every season-ticket holder has internet access, nor emails, especially the 'agedly challenged', in which case a postal reminder/invitation would have been the sensible approach.