Micky

You really are not very good at this are you? I understand that you want to troll the board, but you are so bad at trolling you come across as a 13 year old kid, or worse, a skate. Really looking forward to reading your next offerings. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Again we may not like it, but it's probably pretty much standard practice for both players and agents when it gets to the business end of the season. Looking after number one and all that. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Agreed, the circumstances are very different but it is still a very difficult league to get out of. Bigger clubs than us have struggled to recover after going down Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

This is my main concern. I'm fairly certain that we will get relegated this season, we have lost our balls all over the park. But for me, the overriding issue is that i just don't see us coming back up any time soon. We were very, very lucky last time in that Markus found us and the rest is history. But realistically how many Markus Liebherr's are there out there, are we likely to get that lucky twice in a row? There are much bigger clubs than us that have lounged in the lower leagues for many years, is not easy to get back up. I'm resigned to a long stint of lower league football. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Sounds serious. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Thanks for that, I can see this one running and running. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

To be fair, it's probably one of the more prudent actions that they have conducted all season. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Given we haven't won in ten, that is nowhere near enough games. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Not only are we going to be relegated, but we are going to get relegated from a bunch of teams who are all pretty much as bad as each other. After the top 7 or 8 the quality of this league is pretty awful to be honest, yet we are still struggling to compete with them. This season also has parallels with the last time we went down, West Brom pulled off a great escape that year, can see that happening again. Shame really because we have some decent players, but my biggest worry is that when we go down we won't get back up for many seasons. I fear this may be our last season in the top flight for many years to come. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

I'm so mad I'm thinking of starting a sack the manager thread. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Probably drowning his sorrows on the 19th, or frantically looking for a floodlit course. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Good post - this is pretty much where I am as well. I'm just not sure that Theo is the type of player that is going to 'save us', and right now we need saving. Don't get me wrong, if we were safely top half / mid table and we were out to try and get Theo back I'd be all over it like a rash - but I'm really not convinced that he is the player we need given the job in hand.

We've actually passed the 'bordering' stage as well! HTH.

Watford at home was the worst that we have played this season in my opinion, so I'm not holding out much hope for this one. Not sure what to do for this one, if we score first we all know what the tactics will be and we will end up losing. If they score first do we have the character and bollux to roll up our sleeves and get back into it, or even go on and win it? I fear we have that losing habit and that can be very hard to break. 2 - 0, when was the last time Watford took 6 points off us (and could knock us out of the cup as well)?

Fv ck me, you really do need some practice. Listen, you may aspire to be Glasgow, but you're not anywhere near his league, you're trying too hard. Relax a little bit, and try and add a little subtlety. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Shrewsbury away. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

I've actually heard quite a few pundits make the point quite vocally that Coutinho has worked hard and played very well leading up to his transfer. Sort of gave me the impression that what they were trying to say was that some others (VvD) hadn't shown the same commitment to their old club. I think Dean Saunders was the only pundit that I heard question his effort directly saying that it could be something that could happen again. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Oh James, oh James. I think all you've done is confirm exactly what CB is saying there. Sustainability because the owner is willing to cover a loss / foot the bill / pick up the tab, is only for the very rich sugar daddies. As you quite rightly point out, but essentially they are covering loss. Not many clubs have owners who are able to fund such losses, even if they wanted to. Most clubs of or status have to work within their means and cut their cloth accordingly. You may not like CB Fry's tone, but he is spot on with his assessment. Too many fans think it's just a case of throwing money at it, especially somebody else's. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

But we are only having to sell them to clubs much bigger than us because those clubs can double their wages. When we are forced to sell players to lesser clubs you can start to worry about things. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

We haven't left it too late, we're just not going down that route, he has the boards full confidence and backing. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

While Theo is undoubted quality, I just wonder whether he is 'relegation dogfight' quality, and this is my issue with quite a few of the names mentioned on the transfers thread. I'm thinking that we need a certain kind of player to get us out of this mess and I don't think that Theo is that kind of player. I don't know who the player is myself, but in my mind I've got leader, talker, warrior, organizer and the like - not Theo.

This is pretty much how I feel - I'm not at all bothered if we go down, not fussed in the slightest. I think we flirted a bit above our station to be honest, so to see us struggling now is no real surprise to me. I agree with the point about money as well, let's face it there are the 'haves' and the 'have nots' - we are the latter. We can comfort ourselves in the fact that we have provided quite a few players who have gone through our system and onto the higher echelons of the 'haves', so in that respect we have been successful. But that said the money has ruined the league, obscene prices and obscene wages - very few fans will dine at the top table in their lifetimes. Whilst I'm not bothered about relegation I do actually feel sorry for the kids. My son is just getting into football and I just wonder will he see us back in the Premiership any time soon. If we go down this season - will we recover as quickly as we did last time? I don't think we will, when you look at the clubs down there it's frightening to think of the Leeds, Birmingham, Wolves and Sheffield's have all been trying for many years to get promoted without success. All of that said - relegation or not, I will continue to go to games - it ain't the end of the world!

Not what I meant - having read the original post numerous times, I just have no idea what you were saying (or trying to say).

Does he still have his boots?

Nope, sorry, over me. Afternoon drinkies?