Micky

Hate to say this Charlie, but that is a very highly unlikely scenario - clubs go into administration - few actually go out of business. The likelihood of us going into administration, ceasing to exist and then reincarnating ourselves and season tickets then being resold is errrr - light years away.

If we finish anywhere near 15th Ill eat my hat....

I used to think that I was a complete dork when it came to understanding betting and odds - reading this thread has made me quite happy this morning...!!! BTW - Does anybody know if they do a "Betting Odds For Dummies" book - could become a bit of a best seller..!

To many people are disconsolate that other struggling team have picked up points during our good run. Every argument has a counter and I would suggest that those other teams will be just as disappointed that they have failed to cast us off with Charlton. The others will see that we are fighting and the pressure will be on them as well - it's up to us now - it's in our hands and entirely doable, just a shame that we couldn't pack SMS out for the final couple of games - that would surley have helped the lads.

Look on the bright side - we'll be able to re-open the corners next season.... Althought the rest of the ground will probably be closed....!!!

Errr hellooooo here's a thought - just read 156 & 159 - then try again....!!!!!

Errr thanks for that - Forum - like minded people discussing any number of topics. In our case whats happening at the match. Some of us cannot get local radio links due to where we live and work, therefore it is helpful to have the match thread to at least get some idea from others how we are doing.

Thank you - for me to go to a game, not a lot of change out of £250, which is beyond my income and which is why this site has my unreserved support.

Yes it was - and it never - shyte happens - get over it and move on. If you think that the technicalities are easily solved how come your effort is nowhere in sight. You appear to talk a good game Stanley.... or is it a case of 'all the gear and no idea' really... eh..??

Sorry guys - but these type of comments sound more like kids with 'plastic' axes to grind.

Sorry Stanley it is too late at night - we have been debating this now for some time and you have managed to go from bandwidth to prawns - bandwidth I know a bit about, prawns naff all. Certainly I can see your 'customer analogy', but I really don't want to continually go over old ground. As far as I am concerned (free or 5 poxy quid) I am more than happy with the level of service on this site and the efforts to improve that service.

Perhaps if those are your issues you might take them up with Baj by PM as would be common curtesy when dealing with customer related issues - I'm sure he would reply likemindedly to constructive complaints.

I am, I was, and I can...!

Apologies - a typo on my part - but I'm sure you know where I meant though...

Hypo - nobody made you pay - they gave you the option and you opted in. Yes the idea was that they were going to upgrade the server and we are led to believe that they have done this. OK it hasn't completely fixed the matchday problems that some have experience, but I have no reason to believe that anybody has been negligent in this. They have made best efforts to try to source a solution to the problems, and I believe that are still trying. I really don't think that just because the user has been asked to contribute towards a solution (5 quid) it gives us carte blanche to hassle those actually trying to keep this site going.

No - I'm not missing the point - you get what you paid for - £5 is hardly a great deal of money for a years subscription to this site. Of course if you are not happy you could go to S4E. So this site has modelled itself on a site that errr gets no hits and went downhill. Or did the punters on S4E see that there was another option...???

Well I wouldn't say everytime Saints play - I have noticed it during the last two matches and I will concede that the Level of Service was poor. The chatroom didn't work - but if memory serves me it was muted as a trial - therefore it was bound to throw up gremlins. All of that said admin were on the case trying to restore the service and trying to update us as they worked - what more do you want? Yes the subscription was meant to try to assist in trying to sort the problems, but nothing is guaranteed, and I'm sure that the admin are looking into the problems. My point is that, forget the money - 5 pound is naff all for what you are getting here - this is a very very good football forum. It is run by unpaid volunteers - who deserve our thanks for their efforts - not smart arse comments when things don't go quite as planned.

Then why mention it - I too would have PM'd you about it, I would probably have deleted or at least closed your advertising post - Baj chose to do neither and left it on the main board. Sounds to me as well that you are just a little jealous that this site has the lions share of saints fans attention. Perhaps in your quest to get people back to 4ES, you should learn some lessons from this site, acknowedge its professionalism and try to emulate or better it on 4ES - then perhaps you might attract some punters.

Sorry...!!!! ??????

Sorry - but the question is lost on me mate - what about when it was free? It was free, and dare I say a damn good free site too. You also have the option not to pay the subscription if you so wish. The fact that the site experiences a few technical difficulties now and then is not uncommon. I have had much worse problems with major corporate sites such as Sky and the BBC - so a few minor hitches here is hardly the end of the world. Yes we were told that the server specification would be updated to cater for matchday demand, and that has happened. The fact that we are still experiencing problems is, I'm sure, not down to the fact that the volunteers running this site have done a runner with our subscription money. I pay Sky £50 a month and still have issues with their service so for the 5 quid a year that I have subcribed to TSF I find the LoS to be excellent.

I believe that he is talking about the planned 'Black Rose Protest', where fans were asked to buy a rose (black symbolising the death of the club), or wreath and lay it at the foot of TB statue prior to the Cardiff game. I think the picture is there to prove that this protest didn't happen - or at best was very very poorly attended.

I believe that he is talking about the planned 'Black Rose Protest', where fans were asked to buy a rose (black symbolising the death of the club), or wreath and lay it at the foot of TB statue prior to the Cardiff game. I think the picture is there to prove that this protest didn't happen - or at best was very very poorly attended.

I really cannot believe that you typed any of that. So after all the criticism that you have levelled here, you (allegedly) are more than aware of the time, effort, commitment and sheer hard work that goes into trying to maintain a successful web presence. Yet you folded it because you basically couldn't be arsed - brilliant. That is of course your perogitive, but we have people here who (at their own expence) can be arsed, and many more who are grateful for their efforts, therefore they should get all the support that we can offer. As for your assumption that Baj wouldn't tolerate you advertising your wares on his patch - I would beg to differ: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=11031 BTW - please tell me that you are not SF76....?????

The idea of a chatroom was good - the execution, I grant you, poor. That said when I logged onto it Baj was in there trying to administer it - he was asking users if they were experiencing problems. He then recognised that the chatroom was eating server resouces and closed it - thus restoring normal service on here. As for the advice given - I think Baj explained why he declined some of it at the time. You continually seem to cite what you had on 4ES - if it is/was that good - why is it not here today...????

What - good advice, like go to a forum with - errr no people on it. I can't see too many other snippets of constructive criticism either. By all means - make a point that the services was not particualarly good, but let's not go overboard. The site is run by volunteers - let's not drive them away.