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Do you know that he actually doesn't do this after the march..???
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who wants us to go into admin and/or wotte to fail
Micky replied to Thedelldays's topic in The Saints
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I would leave it til the end of the season - by then we will probably be ground sharing with Eastleigh and there will probably be some premier grade turf going cheap in the SMS Clubshop - hardly trodden (especially on the flanks) too...!!!
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But will moving him alone - and leaving the rest of the board in place, make that much difference...???
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I agree - I think that he would have at least kept us safe. That in turn would of taken some of the heat off of Lowe and he probably wouldn't be quite so vilified. Let's be honest, as fans, if we are winning, we dont give two hoots who is sitting in the boardroom. So quite perversely, had Rupert not made the decission to terminate NP's contract, he could have been sitting prettyin the Boardroom now with not a care in the world. I am not defending the current regime, but as I said - I would like to hear their side of the story. We can hang them now and find out the facts later - but what good is that. This club is in the mire - and simply getting rid of Rupert Lowe alone is probably not going to make a great deal of difference - in fact it could make the situation worse.
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Let's just say Harvey that I take a slightly more pragmatic view of the problem. If Lowe was gone tomorrow.... no if the whole Board was gone tomorrow then I would be as happy as a pig in the proverbial shyte. That said, and the one problem that all of those advocation '12 point plans, this plan and that plan' are currently failing to see - is that we need people to run the club. There are no investors forthcoming - therefore anybody who takes over had better be damn good at their jobs - because there is no money to play with, only the limited assets that we currently have and can afford. We will need a damn good Board to get us out of this mess - and at present I don't see anybody putting themselves forward. So, to summarise - yes lets get rid of the whole damn lot of them - and then what?
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Not at all Micky is here trying to work out how you have come to the conclusion that I support Rupert Lowe.
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Sorry - you have lost me - who have I put down?
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Not actually a true statement - 'anything' is plainly not better than Lowe. (But I really don't want to get into an argument about that). Benefits of him being at the club - from what I can guage (merely from reading this forum) - not a lot, other than he is the man at the helm - and he is the man making the decissions, most of which are sending us to oblivion. I would like to know both sides of the story though - I would like to hear his version of events as to how the club has crashed to this all time low. I have never met the man - however, after the farce that took place at the AGM, my estimations of those people currently occupying the Boardroom was severely dented in terms of the professionalism with which they conduct their business. If they acted as they did in public - god only knows how they are acting in private.
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I'm glad that you too, noted that pretty obvious flaw in the plan.
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Thanks Wooley - was just interested to hear that you thought the substitution was warranted, yet the management still took some stick from some of the fans.
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20 points - I reckon we will have amassed that total by half way into next season - no sweat.
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If he's not under contract then he can go play for whoever he wishes, and it will not have been lost on lots of managers that his form has been very good this season. The onus is on the board to get him to commit to the club - not on Kelvin, he has more than proved his worth this season.
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Scary stats - but it matters not - I am resigned to the drop, which on the face of it is pretty crap really when there are still 42 points available. But we are so bad this season - I just cannot see us turning it around.
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Interesting - but if that is the case, why (allegedly) were our fans singing at Wotte "you don't know what your doing"...??
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UW I agree with you - the fans are the life blood of SFC (and all other clubs for that matter). 'Blame' is perhaps not the correct term to be using here, 'responsibility' is probably more apt. Don't get me wrong, I am not for one moment suggesting that the fans are solely responsible for our current plight, but neither do I think that we can just absolve ourselves of all responsibility. You only have to look at this forum to see that we are far from united as a fanbase. We have the plastics that have basically deserted the club and see fit only to attend the 'glamour' matches such as Sheffield and Manchester United respectively. You can argue all you want about quality, but the fact remains that had those fans stuck by us during the poor times, we may have been able to afford a better playing squad. We may not have had to offload our established strikers to other clubs. We then have those fans that are now refusing to attend SMS in the hope that this will drive the board from their positions and see a takeover achieved. Then there are the die hard fans that continue to support the team irrespective of who is in charge, but are probably seen by the 'stay away fans' as doing more harm than good, but who probably think the same of those fans. Meanwhile, we currently have fans demonstrating (as is their right) during matchdays - does this have a positive effect upon the players - I know not, but I would hazard a guess that it does not, although it will probably demonstrate the depth of feeling for the club. Coupled to all of this we have had fans fighting between themselves, we had the infamous 'spat' involving fans and Kelvin Davis last season, and just a few days ago we had fans getting involved with players whilst in Southampton city centre. All of these things can only have a negative effect upon both the club and the players. So I am not saying that the fans are totally resonsible - far from it. But we are obvioulsy not a united fanbase, and as a consequence the team are not getting our best support - therefore should we not shoulder our fair share of responsibility?
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Nobody, nobody, nobody has even intimated that the fans are solely to blame - nobody. However, when things like this (our club) go wrong it is very easy to point the finger and blame one individual. Tell you what - let's blame Lowe - easy target - big as a barn door - so easy to hit. Can't be my fault - I'm only a fan, nothing to do with me at all. Typical blame culture I'm afraid. Tell you what - the fans will all want to be part of it when we are winning again - everybody will want a slice of SFC, remember where you were in '74 and more recently in '03, remember when MLT scored the final goal at the Dell, etc. Yet now it's all gone belly up, you want to distance yourself from any culpability whatsoever. No one person is solely to blame for our current plight, the blame must be shared collectively, and as far as I am concerned that includes the fans.
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Would appear to be fully fit now though - and raring to go against us... Dooh...!!! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4124739.Davies_set_to_line_up_against_Saints/
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To be fair - he did say one of the many causes - he did not say that it was the primary cause. I have to say that I would agree to a certain extent, when fans are not united behind the management and team it's bound to have a detrimental effect on the support, and therefore, the team during matchdays.
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Agreed it is. However, in line with consumer demand, will the forums yearly subscription be reduced to reflect the decline in interest due to relegation. Or will they take their lead from the club for season ticket prices and (allegedly) try to raise the price...???
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Actually, if truth be known, I only caught the last 15 minutes...!!! The comment was sort of 'tongue in cheek' due to certain expectations and comments made by other here...!!!