Micky

Not really - had we won 3 nil then perhaps the fighting and rioting would not have happened. Afterthought: us win 3 nil... ummm I'll get my coat.....

Problem being if we are that far adrift by the time Lowe acts, it makes it all the more difficult for a new man do get us out of the poo. Personally I think we are dead and buried right now...

Nue Pwonts...!!!!

Eric Van Teutal for me - he's a Dutch coach used to getting the best out of young players.... errr then again - maybe not...!!!

Verbal jousting all very acceptable Ponty - nobody is going to get a broken jaw sitting at thier keyboard (which explains why I am such a brave bastard). But 'in fighting' in the stadium - really shows how low we have sunk.

I reckon there might also be a few first team players available as well, BWP, JE etc.... "Roll up, roll up get your very own CCC players here, rarely used, (effectively)..."

No sweat mate - most of us are gutted tonight and it's going to take one almighty miracle to get out of this dung heap now. As I said - I have resigned myself to relegation. I am but an armchair fan and so have only seen the televised games - but those alone have convinced me that we just do not have the quality required. I am a little hacked off that many actually reported early season that these kids would come good. From what I have seen - I see little sign of them being able to hack this league. Maybe not their fault - but next season will be even harder - we will be the team that everybody wants to beat, and lets face it - that aint too hard to achieve right now!

2nd best to what apparently was a poor Donny side - it doesnt get any worse really does it? New grounds again next season travelling saints...!!!

Thanks Mike - would appear that we basically deserved what we got then - zilch...!! I wonder how this will effect things between now and the end of the transfer window as well - if we start to loose the likes of Kelvin, the season could become total embarrasment.

Errrr I didn't say any of those things for which you 'credit' me - I am just trying to substantiate how we played - it appears most of the comment here are from those who were not at the game. You need not bother reminding me about our predicament - I am well aware of that - as my previous post proves. If it makes it any easier for you - I didn't expect our league form to be much from what we are currently displaying. I expect us to be relegated - we have neither the players or management structure to do much else - if by some miracle we do manage to avoid it then that is a bonus. Perhaps now that you have ranted at me - we might discover just how the team played today - as I have asked on another thread was the performance shyte or just the result?

Did you ....?

Amongst all the hysteria currently occupying most threads on this board - I wonder if this comment is actually nearer both the truth and the facts?

I was out until the last 10 minutes - was the performance shyte or just the result..???

Did we play well...??

I dont think that they actually have a manager yet do they...???

Just got in - losing - damn - how are we playing - do we look like getting back into this... Edit: Ahhh right - I see, sorry all - forget that then... Guess I'll go back out again now then... Dooohhhh!!!!

There appears to be somebody else who will be at SMS today who also fears that clubs could suffer due to the amount of debt in the game: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Football-In-Recession-Big-Clubs-Could-Go-Bust-In-Credit-Crunch-Doncaster-Rovers-John-Ryan/Article/200901315204952?lpos=Business_First_UK_News_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15204952_Football_In_Recession%3A_Big_Clubs_Could_Go_Bust_In_Credit_Crunch%2C_Doncaster_Rovers_John_Ryan Being in the position he is - I would think that he is well placed to judge.

Time for some consistency methinks... hence: Southampton 2 V 0 Doncaster Rovers DMG to get 3 in 3, with Saga getting off the mark.

If thier surnames are Davies (Jnr(perhaps..!)) and Shearer - they'll do nicely Sir - sign them up...!!!

Well try to understand this - the amount of money that is being paid to make this deal happen is making headlines and raising eyebrows even in the lavish world of football. Just think what somebody, who has absolutely no interest in football, is thinking with regard to the current credit crunch. Here I am staving off the bayliffs, but 10 miles down the road a guy runs around a football field and gets paid 'alf a mil a week - mind boggling. For me, the issue is not about what 1 man is getting in regards to money. It is the chasm between the 'haves' and 'have nots' that is turning our league into a 4 team affair, with a few hangers on, and at the same time prostituting itself to all the top players in the world, while sticking two fingers up to the potential home countries talent. Yes it's a good league - but there is more to life than money.

Fair play to you Tim - nothing like backing your words with actions. Now can you pull your effin' finger out, lose all these MLS kids (I'm sure your on commission...!) and get us bloody Ronaldo, before the window closes. Do that, my friend, and you will have true legend status here..!

Very much so. Of course the problem will be should they fail to win trophies. The likes of Kaka are sorted for life financially, young and hungry for trophies. If City fail to deliver on the silverware - then I don't think it will take too long for 'stars' to look elsewhere for winning teams. For this revolution to work at City they have to win trophies (big ones) and that effectley means overhauling United - no mean feat if they manage to achieve it - but I have my doubts. I can't see them managing that in just a couple of years - and how long is Kaka and the like going to hang around waiting?

I think you might have missed the boat mate. This has absolutley nothing to do with business - it is not investment, because investors expect a return - there will be no monetary return on this buy. Show me how much profit Roman Abramovich has made at Chelsea since he has been there - errr absolutely naff all. The club is a 'plaything' for a very rich man (or men), who probably have no idea of economics anyway. They have so much wealth - economics mean nothing. Nobody is suggesting that anybody bails this country out - but in the current economical climate, where many members of this country are losing their houses to unscrupulous banks and lending companies - it is evident why such lavishness might irk with more than just a few - no?

Agreed - in financial terms he will be. But one of the main factors of him going there will be to entice other 'world stars' to join City as well. So in those terms he might justify just a little of his over-inflated fee and obscene wage bill.

I would tend to agree with a lot of the points you make - but the facts remain - that we fail to nurture lots of our home grown talent because of the amount of foreign imports that we invite to the party. This has a detrimental effect at grass roots level, and in the long term does absolutely nothing to promote either the National Team or English players abroad. Name me 10 foreign players currently playing in England - easy? Name me 10 English players currently playing abroad - eerrrr not so..! I have little problem with Sky relying on the commodity that is English football and pumping lots of money into it. The problem is, the spread of that money - it does not allow the small man to compete - and as a result the Premier League is dominated by 3 - 4 teams. Even in business circles free trade is generally encouraged whilst monopolies are widely frowned upon - yet we have our very own Tesco's of the Premier League. So yes Sky - keep pumping it it - but spread it around a little eh. Just think of how the likes of Bournemouth, Luton Town and many other smaller enterprises might benefit by just a little bit of the action. And, if as you say, the smaller man will soon not be able to play the beautiful game then we are indeed f u c k e d - and perhaps it is at this point that we should call time. I hope it never happens but as you have pointed out - the man in the street is in danger of being priced out of the very industry that he supported and spent many many years building, in order to finally be turned away as the next generation of toffs showed up. When (if) it does all go 'Pete Tong' - wait and see who the clubs turn to in order to try and flog their wares again.