Mr X

If j rod is in the list then surely gaston has to be as IMO he's been better than gaston

No not really you are living in dreamland if you think anyone is going to offer what we paid for Ramirez, in his current state he's worth five or six million at best you couldn't really say he's better than SRL at one million

Thats clearly not what we are saying no one on here has said he's rubbish, more that he's hugely underperforming there is a difference

clearly doesn't fit in with our style at all is this our scouts fault or do you believe he was purely a cortese signing? as Adkins didn't seem to want him

ramirez just doesnt seem to want to play for us whole heartedly a skilled player there can be no doubt but in terms of contribution has to be one of our poorest. Do you think he will still come good or would he have come good by now if was going to. has he had long enough to improve?

just think we could have brought both the newcastle players they've just signed for less than ramirez

clear dive by gaston

what the hell has ramirez done since he came on ffs!

It was a stone cold penalty think you have your rose tints on

fook sake fox!

fook sake cant see anyway back in this wonder goal!tbf

we were under too much pressure there couldnt get a hold of the ball 70% possession to the toon!

I think his head is elsewhere certainly not at saints, he is probably missing his own country and friends which is understandable. hopefully things click for him but at the moment hes far too lightweight on the ball and a luxury we cant afford to have in the team on current form! has the talent though

did you rate ramirez a success on current form or purely on undelivered as yet potential?

too true but as somone said "he may be a b a s t a r d but hes our b a s t a r d"

agree with that. What do you think is the main reason gaston gives the ball away so much? Is it because he tries to do too much with it ie showboating and tricks is it because he's disinterested? Because he's not well suited to the prem? Or simply because he's nowhere near as good a player as we thought he was and when we offered 12 million they bit our arm off!

nonsense you are getting carried away with yourself I am as pleased with our peformances as anyone but we are what four matches in? judge him on the rest of our season as if we suffer a decline you will be the first calling for his sacking

if we havent seen him improve his consistency in the time hes been here (hes had plenty of time to show he can get better) then theres nothing to suggest he will. Hope im proved wrong

noone seems to answer this directly refering only to the fact that he is one for the future but who buys a 12 (14 with add ons) million pound player and doesnt expect them to be better than the other players?

i think as other posters have said the main issue is how much we paid had we paid four of five million most people wouldn't be too disheartened that he wasnt as good as expected but this player was hyped up beyond belief we truely believed we were getting a world class player. People can make all the excuses they want but its clear hes not well suited to the premiership. Who really signed him?

You have to ask the question who identified ramirez as a saints target? was it the scouting team? or was it merely one of corteses wild gambles like pochitino, adkins made it clear it wasnt his signing and their are rumours that the signing caused tentions between them adkins new he was on borrowed time

shaw offers more of a goal threat and better all round play than ramerez would you not agree?

shocking display compared to wednesday maybe we burned ourselves out? ramerez keeps losing posession and non existant marking for their goal

he was immense for us in the championship and can be a decent back up player. is fonte fit again now?

Happy to admit i may have been a bit harsh on him. I basically said he will never make it as a decent premiership striker but the the game against Tesco united was without doubt the best hes been his workrate was ridiculous and his movement caused them numerous problems. I certainly hope it wasnt a flash in the pan and he continues to improve. Is he premiership quality? time will tell i guess