SaintBobby

If I'd written a **** mag about the collapse of Portsmouth FC, I couldn't have come up with something as fantastically brilliant as this turn of events. Joyous.

The Pompey Trust website http://www.pompeytrust.com/ still has as one of their "NEWS HEADLINES" stories, the tale of a teenage boy who did a sponsored cycle ride to raise £1,150. In May 2012. Yep. That really is one of their selected top 5 stories. It's beneath pathetic.

I watched the game in a bar. We were genuinely asking each other "what's the minute's silence for?" I think it's overused. The deaths in that bar were horrid. But nothing to do with football. About 2,500 people die every year in car smashes in Britain.

I wish I could fly high up the leagues, but I can't You can I can't.

I find the idea that a stadium tour guide has let slip our plans for a 58K stadium laughable. I find the idea that Cortese must have some plan to make this work - possibly by selling lots of bratwurst and sauerkraut even more laughable.

Was just looking up some stuff on FC United (see thread on main board), who have managed to raise £1.7m in shares/pledges. WTFILN

Why the feck are they eating the newly-installed facilities?

Better still, let's hope we collapse down the entire league table. Or even end up in the Blue Square. Tickets would be much cheaper then. The plastics would be gone. And we could almost guarantee kick offs at 3pm on Saturdays. It's no a brainer, surely.

I think the glorious thing about all of this is how the skate fans are losing heart. The Trust has signally failed to unite the fanbase -in fact, it's split it quite badly. And can you imagine how dispiriting it must be to see your team fail to win in 17 games with a threadbare squad of journeyman with no past or future at the club? I'm trying to imagine how I'd feel if Saints were in this position. At first, I'd fight and campaign, "back the bid" etc. But after months and months of it, I think maybe I'd just drift away.

Sounds like it really is a recurring dead leg problem for Ramirez then.

The odds were pretty bad back then as I recall. Although, it was the admin that finally sealed it, I think - not just the poor performances on the pitch. I have no problem betting against Saints - it doesn't affect the result.

If not Lambert, who? Is Sturridge already in the squad?

Proper mental. Massively impressed......

I doubt he still thinks they'll be "fine", which sort of implies staying well clear of relegation. At best, they will scrape out of the bottom three by a whisker. Mind you, my predictions weren't so good - but I'd change them now, rather than be "consistent"

I agree that Gaston has failed to impress. But there's time for him to come good. Nevertheless, it was a wise signing at the time. Expensive - but consistent with our approach of signing youngish players who will/could improve.

DOWN - QPR, Villa, Wigan UP - Cardiff and 2 randoms

If we end up behind QPR, given we're 7 points ahead of them with just 13 games to go, we deserve to be relegated tbh.

Reading are on a bewilderingly brilliant run. All credit to them. I have every faith we will end up above Wigan, Villa and QPR though. And indeed end up much higher than 17th.

I'd be delighted with a point. Could be a goalfest though, if they are down to the bones at the back and have Tevez/Aguero/Dzeko against our current centre backs.

Shove your money down. The bookies say we're 65% likely to stay up. If I thought something was "virtually certain" and the odds were 2/1 against, I'd put a fortune on it. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

Interesting - although a bit sad - to see Plymouth, who beat us 1-0 at St Mary's in August 2010, are now flirting with relegation out of the league. If they haven't been able to bounce back why should the skates?

Why do people always focus on the negatives. Yes, we have let some leads slip. But also, we beat Villa away thanks to a very dodgy penalty (and them having many more chances than we did to score) We snatched a draw from the jaws of defeat at home to Fulham We came back from 2-0 down to get a point at Chelsea Obviously, if you look at all the points we could have won if absolutely everything had broken our way in every game, we'd be in the top 4 or something mental. I'm an optimist. Not only are we presently 3 points clear of the drop, but we are playing well.

Villa seem even worse at letting leads slip then we are. Dropped two points at Swansea in injury time, were 2-0 up and cruising v WBA and drew, were 3-1 up Everton with 2 minutes to go. I don't think it will be as few as 29 points to stay up, but it's not likely to be as many as 38. Here's why: Wigan - currently averaging 0.84 points per game - will end up on 32 points if this continues. Would need to average 1.31 points over their last 13 games to get to 38. Villa - same as Wigan QPR - currently averaging 0.68 per game - will end up on 26 points if this continues. Would need to average 1.61 points from hereon to get to 38. Additionally, Reading are - over the season - on target for 35 points on their overall points per game performance. An extra slight bonus is that we seem near certain to be ahead of Villa on goal difference (currently 15 ahead), and very probably also ahead of Wigan (currently 7 ahead), which is basically worth another half point to Saints. My conclusion is that we'd be very unlucky to be relegated with 33 or 34 points. 35 or 36 will almost certainly do it. 40 points and we'll be clear by a tidy mile. W 3 D 3 L 7 should be enough. W 4 D 2 L 7 will surely be enough

On the upside, we're in a much better position now than you were anticipating before the game. Clearly a 2-2 against relegation rivals is an awful lot better than a 3-0 defeat. So, whatever the % chance you thought that we'd be relegated pre-kick off, it's obviously a measurably lower % now. You must be punching the air - getting a 2-2 in a game you expect to lose 3-0 is just fantastic.

Unlucky to only get a point. We'll be fine. Just fine.