SaintBobby

Seems to me that 34 or 35 points might be enough this season. The bottom 5 are all averaging less than a point a game.

It's like kicking a sick puppy now. I don't know where to turn.... Am still laughing my nuts off.

Can confirm the 10 weeks rumour. Horse's mouth on Saturday.

chuckle http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20798234

Loved seeing us climb from -10 in League One to the Premier League in 3 short seasons. 2005-2009....hmmm....not so much....

This politically correct OP is turning out well, I see...:-)

Anyone know if this woman on the Snooze is right on this stuff? [h=4]SarahPFC[/h]11:19 PM on 15/12/2012In a desire to look for further evidence of people pledging, I decided to take a look at the Trust's facebook page, which I've now "liked". http://www.facebook.com/PompeySupportersTrust?fref=ts As someone who has spent over three years working in the charitable fundraising sector, it has to be said that this further confirms my worst fears. The page only has 744 "likes". This is, in essence, a fairly tiny fan page. Not at all the sort of size you'd expect for any organisation with the remotest prayer of raising £1.8m. (by contrast, Battersea Dogs Home has 178,000 "likes", Comic Relief has over 420,000, the United Kingdom Independence Party - which raises way less than £1m a year from its members - has over 12,000 "likes"). The page itself implores supporters for good news stories. "Please send us the best stories of share syndicates etc." There are just 2 "likes" and no comments left. In one particularly sad post, it asks people to "like" a post if they have converted their £1K pledge. A miserable total of 32 people have done so - and only 5 others leave comments saying that they intend to. These numbers are, I'm sorry to say, truly derisory in the context of what the Trust is seeking to achieve. They simply do not remotely chime with an organisation that has the slightest prayer of raising £1.8m in a relatively short period of time. Another post asks supporters to complete the sentence "I purchased my PST share because....". Only 9 people have chosen to complete the sentence. Of which one says "don't count your chickens" and another is part of a consortium which hopes to buy a share soon. It's not obvious that the other seven are all £1K pledgers either. It's fair to say, that the sort of support on Facebook for the Trust is along the lines of a fairly local charity that might - with superhuman effort - raise £250K or so per annum. Possibly, with unbelievable, almost obscene effort, a bit more than that. But nowhere near £1.8m. Absolutely nowhere near. Any organisation (especially relating to football) that was on target for that sort of figure would typically have about ten or twenty times as much support on Facebook and hundreds of likes and comments for each individual post. Worse still, some of the comments, especially the most recent ones are actually very hostile to the Trust. Perhaps, as well as being unbelievably reticent and private about making donations, people from our city also have an unusual allergy to Facebook! If not, the Trust's prospects look truly awful.

Presumably, everyone attending Saints games thinks its worth at least the ticket price to go. Otherwise, why the hell are they buying a ticket? Some people will think it's worth much more than the current ticket price, of course, but discriminatory pricing for each individual fan would be rather difficult...

Sad news. Best wishes to his family.

From the Snooze site. Quite perceptive for a skate! [h=4]SarahPFC[/h]9:35 PM on 15/12/2012 Let's be clear about this. There is no reason of "commercial confidentiality" to not release the numbers. I'm afraid that the Trust is probably way, way off reaching its £1.8m target. I know the numbers are complicated by syndicates etc, but in very broad terms, the Trust need 1,800 to hand over £1,000 each. Ask yourself what sort of background noise or mood music we'd be witnessing if they were anywhere close to this total.. a. We'd be seeing a flood of people on twitter or on sites like this saying "I've paid my grand". We have seen a tiny trickle. I'd say, at a cursory glance, no more than 10 or 20 such people on this site - the main local news site for the city. b. We'd be seeing a very large number of local news stories of businesses or local "celebrities" saying they'd paid up their pledge. Again, there has been a tiny trickle of this sort of stuff. But if 1,800 people really are ponying up, about 1,750 of them seem to guard their privacy very, very jealously indeed. c. Trust meetings would be absolutely packed to the rafters. If you're so passionate about the club that you're willing to stump up a grand, you're disproportionately likely to be willing to attend a meeting for an hour or so. Attendance at these meetings has typically been measured in the dozens. Again, maybe 95% of hardcore Pompey fans are willing and able to write a cheque for a grand but not willing and able to attend any meetings. But it doesn't ring true. d. Ancillary fundraising activity would be on an absolutely colosall scale. If Portsmouth is typical of the nation, the city as a whole would have raised about £250K for Comic Relief this year. The Trust are trying to raise about eight times that. Does the activity and publicity feel about eight times as big to you? It doesn't to me. Selling T-shirts to raise a few hundred quid is cute, but pretty useless. e. The loyal, enthusiastic Pompey fans you know would be showing a VERY high propensity to pay up their £1,000. I'd say I know about 50 Pompey fans quite well. And these 50 are pretty "hardcore" - season ticket holders, regular away attendees, have the disposal income to go to lots of games etc. If you aren't getting nearly all of these sort of people to handover £1,000, it's hard to see where you are getting the support from. Of the 50 people I know, two have handed over £1K (both rather sceptically) and four or five have put down the £100, but only one expects to be able to complete on the other £900. So, in broad terms, of the 50 fans I know, the Trust will raise about £2,500 or £50 per head. This makes £1.8m a very steep hill indeed. (If my mates are representative, you'd need to find a total of 36,000 such Pompey fans to raise the targeted amount. There aren't that many) f. You'd need to believe that for every one Pompey fan willing to pay, say, a total of £100 to attend the Tranmere away game, there are six Pompey fans willing to hand over a grand to the Trust. This doesn't sound very likely to me at all.

I love this tweet..... Pompeys12thMan ‏@Pompeys12thMan Our club needs us all.. Can't afford a full share? Joinhttp://www.pompeys12thmam.co.uk syndicates - various options from £25 upto £500 part shares.. 12th mam???? Hoping to borrow some cash from Mummy are we?

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Fulham already have 20 points. I expect them to have at least 20 points by Xmas and would be very surprised if they have as few as 17. HTH>

I think there's every chance we'll go down. But I'm sanguine about it. It's not Adkins I'm worried about, it's that we've spent an absolute mint. If folk expect us to spend another £10m or so in the transfer window in Jan, we are surely betting the ranch?

Don't know anything about this guy. But I'd say with Morgan, Cork and Steve D., we def don't need another defensive midfielder.

I'm not really sure who we might credibly sign to displace Fonte or Yoshida. Maybe, if we spend £6m or so, I guess. But I def want cover at CB.... And we can get that cheaply.

There are no legal reasons at all for not releasing the pledge conversion figures. Absolutely none. There may be good reasons (e.g. the numbers are awful and his would be terrible PR). But there isn't a legal reason. Not one.

What part of this is a strategy? Buy Ramirez for £12m because he will rip out the Championship when we go down? Totally agree we might get relegated, but in what way do you think the club is (or should be) arranging its affairs in anticipation of relegation? The exact opposite seems to be the case.

Wld still love to know who is willing to own up to being in the c20% who voted to get rid of him in a poll a few weeks back.

Moronic to boo him. At 1-0 up in a vital game. 3-0 up or 3-0 down with 10 mins to go, well, maybe I could let that pass.... The cretins who booed actually cut our chances of winning. Total planks.

Let's hope the yo-yo strategy works out, hey? Firstly, we need to be relegated, obviously....

Am very surprised that some seem to have the view that (a) SRL wasn't cutting it and (b) J-Rod had a really good game. I'd give Rickie 8/10, a truly excellent performance. Not his best of the season, but not far off. I'd give Jay 6.5/10. Not bad, but not lethal enough. He hasn't convinced me yet, but he had one of his better games. I'm not anti, but still unsure he was worth £6m. Here's hoping.

I'm not sure signing a 4th goalie would sit easily with the yo-yo strategy. Given the central aim of the club's strategy is to get relegated this season, before waiting to get promoted next season, it would be a major error to sign a good keeper, I'd have thought.

Probably my player of the season at the moment. Enjoyed his full page interview in the Sun today. Obviously, he's had his troubles. But looks like the real deal just now. Thank God the club didn't listen to me or most others on this message board and get rid of him for tuppence or less.

Puncheon for me. Honourable mentions for Cork and Yoshida. (and quite honourable mentions for virtually every player)