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But there are no guarantees for academy players that they are going to make it at a good level so you can’t blame them for taking 2-3 years of a much higher wage at clubs like Chelsea knowing you are very likely to leave in a few years

Might be earlier now given P&O have said they are sticking with us

I think we were waiting to see what league we would be in first, which is fine, but given the mess at the end of the season it’s worked against us by missing the deadline as the final then wasn’t our final game

With Stewart gone, I imagine they are also looking for buyers for BBD, Downs and Archer, could be quite the refresh up front next season.

Trippier not happy that Edwards has gone. Apparently considering cancelling his deal with Wolves (not sure how he can tbh though )

He needs to be playing. 3rd keepers tend to be old keepers happy not playing

Or it was good to hear a mix of views on TSP on the events.

It’s nice, imagine that in black with the stripes red. Lovely away shirt that would be

Was a proper captain and leader. Would be good to get involved at the club in some capacity

As a business you can’t let someone who’s actions have been effectively described as bullying of younger junior staff and led to the team being excluded from a competition to go unpunished. How can the club that said: ”The club will reflect carefully on the events that have led to this point, learn from them and take the necessary steps to move forward responsibly.” move forward without taking the steps of removing those responsible for the shame and embarrassment brought upon it.

Regardless of his managerial ability, the report is damming, it shows him to have broken rules and bullying junior members of staff, that itself means he should leave. we can move on from this shambles with those involved in it still doing their jobs. Southampton have to be seen to be moving on from this and replacing those who did it should be the first step.

obvious options: Liam Rosenior is a SR style apppointment. Did well at Hull and Strasbourg but was never going to succeed at Chelsea. Thomas Frank due to connections to Ankersen but can’t see him dropping down to Championship. Scott Parker knows how to get promoted from the league. some young foreign up and coming manager

I agree but there is obviously only evidence we did it 3 times so even we wouldn’t be so stupid to admit we have been doing it all the time under Tonder this season. So we can only considered on the basis it was 3 games

Fielding an ineligible player is far worse than watching training sessions imo. That player can directly affect that game. As the results showed watching training doesn’t equal a win on the pitch. for both to incur kicking out a competition is unfair imo

I mean we won’t be reinstated but if we were would you be wanting Tonda still to manage it? He and Spors (plus anyone else involved) should be sacked regardless of if we are in play off final or not. He and Spors will go onto other clubs in Europe and players will move on, leaving the fans to deal with their actions.

I still question, if this all happened in Dec what punishment would have been given then? I’m sure it would have been a fine and points deduction. why just because one of them was a play off game should you get kicked out? Would they have kicked you out the league in Dec, no.

They should have at least acknowledged it though. A holding statement, disappointment at decision and appealing etc but nothing feels like another two fingers up to the fans

So being kicked out seems excessive now in comparison then?

Or they did and him and Spors decided to carry on regardless

If this had come out in Dec and we admitted to three counts of it, I wonder what the punishment would have been then??

Imagine if Boro got fined for the gdpr breach and it was more than a fine we got for spying haha

So if we were kicked out of the play offs, you think we would just accept that? No chance, not with the impact of players we would lose etc. we would appeal it and that would then take time. What they gonna do delay the final until the appeal has been heard. No chance!

When Leeds got in trouble for it the rule setters (EFL / FA?) didn’t change the rules to ban what Leeds did, they just introduced a time frame you couldn’t do it. Within 72hrs of a game. it must happen a lot tbh, especially with technology these days.

So the rule being broken was that it was within 72hrs of a match then? Hardly a massive crime