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Okay. So the conversation was different to your transcript, which seemed to be you talking a lot and Shaw smiling and nodding and not saying much at all. Fair enough.

I guess on of the plus points of being a small fish in a big pond would be not being stopped and talked bol*ocks at by random lunatics in service stations.

He'd have fought like a bastard to keep Adidas, like a bastard I tell you.

He plays for saints which means he is the best player in the world in his position, up until he get linked with a move to a bigger club, then there is no point him joining them as he'll just be a squad player. Anyway, well deserved, good player and not before time.

So not only is he good at being young players through he can also spot their potential at other clubs and bring them in at a young age. Sounds good to me.

Quite. I think Everton finished top half in 9 out of 11 seasons he was there with a net spend of around £1m a season. An incredible achievement really. The fashionable view seems to be saying that Martinez has shown him up but the fact remains Everton have finished 5th-8th every season since for the last 8 years.

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Because what we most definitely wouldn't want to happen would be people redwing into what he was saying, speculating as to what he might have meant and what he did or didn't say and also as to what his body language might infer. Thank god he only speaks in Spanish and none of that goes on.

You're right. IIRC he started to get symptoms at Man united, when he went I birminghham was when it started to really effect him and forced him to retire. 8 always lived him and followed his career as he used to live round the corner from where I grew up so saw him quite a bit. He came to our school a couple of times as well, one of them not long after the 1984 semi final where I asked him how he felt after the game and he said he was very, very upset. He also signed an autograph on a chip wrapper in mikes chippy at the castle when he was in there after a game once.

Is that the same club that disgusting stole one of the countries most promising right backs and paid around £2m for him, a fraction of his true value, from the club that developed him? They make me sick.

Remember the days when some people thought guardiola would be interested. Remember where we were a year ago *sighs*

This is nothing new though is it. Everton have lost Rodwell, artera, Fellani, Rooney and lescott to bigger in recent seasons. When villa had 4 years of finishing 6th Barry, Milner, downing and young were on the first Bentley to Manchester and Liverpool when they came calling. That's soccerball.

So in summary the reasons he shouldn't go are if he stays he'll be popular in Southampton and England international, £25m rated, team of the year player isn't good enough to get into a team many say without Suarez are average and have no chance of winning anything.

Can only think of a number of ex saints players. Peter crouch, shearer, mark wright, no current ones.and of course the southampton born Darren Anderton scored v Columbia in 1998.

Shilton and wright were both at saints but wright didn't go as he'd broken his leg that season in the semi final v Liverpool. Certainly in my lifetime of watching football from the mid 80s I can't remember us having even 3 players in the tournament, let alone the England squad. Maybe some of our older fans can. Edit. Just remember we had 3 players in 2002. Bridge, anders Svenson and Delgado, if he counts.

Oh, far, far from it pal, you couldn't be more wrong, I'm simply illustrating how easy it is to resort to foul mouthed name calling and petty insults, such as 'get out of your bedsit' but doing this is something you seem to constitute giving someone 'a hell of a beating'

Completely over your head then, there's a surprise.

We what we can deduce from this bumped thread is unlike was claimed that I was demanding he be dropped or saying I didn't rate him, I actually said I thought he was a great player. And probably key to it all is that it was a question to the forum to discuss, A question at the moment In time, December 2013, not may 2014 not with the benefit of a new manager and a vastly improved player and team a question and not demanding he be dropped. So those who find it "'mongboard gold" are talking sh+t as usual. Just like yesterday, shurlocks desperation to try and mug me off has spectacularly backfired yet again. "Playing the post not the poster" let's see what he drags up tomorrow.

I'll stick with what I said. We were being exposed down the left flank week in week out, Lallana was not at the level he's at now, no where near in fact and results had improved whilst he was out. I also think i was pretty clear in my OP that I rated him and considered him one of our best players but asked the question as we a better side without him. Didn't call for him to be dropped or didn't say I didn't rate him Still it'd be too much for the mugs on here to play the post not the poster

He's obsessed pal. Like I said in the OP on the thread, I'm a big fan of his And believe you should play your best players. However one of the biggest criticisms of his and of the team the first half of last season was how exposed our left back was. Partly because fox wasn't up to it and Shaw was still emerging, both needed a bit more protection escpecialy away from home. Shaw has Obviously come on leaps and bounds too which has helped that as well as the system we play now being different to the one under Adkins. I'm sure he'll now say none of this happened, our fullbacks were never exposed and Our system hasn't changed. Just shows a measure of his obsession that he'll rewrite history and use threads totally out of context In his crusade against me. And I though a while back when he used posts from other forums which were said as a joke and completely unrelated to the thread was a bit wierd

What were you saying yesterday about wading in not reading threads properly?! I clearly said in the OP on that thread I'm a big fan of his and believe you should play the beat players, but we looked a more solid unit without. Then asked the question are we a better side without him? Hardly calling for him to be dropped you utter lemon Not reading posts properly and rewriting history. Mongboardary at it's finest Taking things seriously like following people round, even using posts that they've made on other forums to prove a made up point that doesn't exist. Yes pal, it's me taking it seriously

At the time it was a valid point. lallana wasn't playing well and results had improved with him not in the side. He's improved beyond all recognition since then. I'm sure a lot of people will have erased that period from their memories though. Hindsight is great isn't it. Nice to see you're obsession with me shows no sign of letting up.

Looks like you'll be getting the new owner you asked for then.

Sorry, so are you now saying we weren't run like a seaside B&B, that our transfer activity was actually fine and not the shambles you made out it was, that other chairmen didn't see NC coming and that pretty much everything you posted from Aug 2009-Jan 2014 was a load of bo*llocks?

Took about 30 seconds. And there were plenty more, as well as the numerous rants on threads you over the years. Bit odd you'll miss the guy who ran us like a crappv seaside b&b, a guy who other chairman see coming and how your now bemoaning us not being able to finish higher than 8th in a division we don't belong in. Or is that just 'frustration' too?