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Yet still you obsess about me.

Surely it's down to him to make himself undroppable then? You need options up front and squad if 20 or so decent players. Look at all the top clubs, they all have 3-4 or four decent options up front.

Or maybe I couldn't give a sh*t if the divs on here don't like me?!

So if he choses us why would it be?

I bet some of you lot are a great laugh spend an evening with,

That's the whole point of a forum Nicky son. I know some of you don't like discussion and just want back slapping and worshipping everyone at the club and on here but unfortunately for some of you that ain't how it is.

I expect most of them just didn't buy the new shirt.

I'm relaxed, as always. So have you thrown the towel in? Given up? No belief in your convictions? It's a good job Noah didn't quit when a few people Questions his motives otherwise he'd have never built the ark and the human race would have been wiped out.

You're developing a rather strange obsession with me.

Is it harmless though? It's an outward display of distant at a decision made by the club. What is the aim of making and selling t-shirts? What if 1000 people decide to buy them and all wore them today? Would that still be harmless? Or is it just a one man crusade to being back stripes?

Colin. I'll ask you again, do you think wearing one of your t-shirts to a match is damaging to the club?

But like all conversations it has developed into a wider issue about what we can offer top foreign players, If this was just about Osvaldo and news, then the thread would about 20 posts long.

Is any player at a big club guaranteed to start every week? Surely the whole point of having a good squad strong enough to play 38 league games and attempt to challenge for 3 cups you'd be looking at playing nearly 60 odd games, as well as internationals. I'd be concearned if I was joining a club and they were expecting me to play in every single game. At the big clubs they have good players in every position and more than one of them.

Would it be better for an Italian international to play for a top club in Italy during World Cup year, a top 5 club in England playing European football and likely challenging for the champions league or a midtable club in England?

Its not a huge leap to say that we've clearly made him a very attractive offer but his preference is a move to Inter or Spurs. inter isn't going to happen and its not really clear if Spurs are interested or not iit would appear that the Roma directors want him off the books. You wouldn't blame a foreign player for choosing Spurs over us would you, if they want him or not is another matter.

Its not an arguements just about Osvaldo though is it, its what would entice a player to us when we can't offer them European football or challenging for trophies. We are trying to compete with clubs that can offer this.

Who has that train of thought?

I don't know what you're whining about, nothing has changed in 33 pages so not sure why you think it would in 2.

Well I think they will. They've got a good squad and a very good manager, they've signed a striker they were misssing last season. They won't win the league but they'll finish 4th. IMO.

I think its another case of lost in translation, just like Ramirez money quotes, I've answered your point, you all bang on about the project, the dream the ambition etc, the reality is top players can get hat immediately from clubs we are competing with for the same players.

You think I dont know that? So naive.

Even the save our stripes protest shirt is plain.

What on earth are you going on about now?

Given that Spurs have made the champions league recently, have challenged for it for the last 3 years and finished in the top 5 for the last 4 seasons and are highly likely to be in the top 5 again this season, as an arrogant Italian striker, which most of them are, I'd think I'd be the man to fire them into the champions league. Can Saints offer that? Or just some vague promise that if this this and that happens, we might one day rival spurs for 4th spot, plus i can live in London rather than Southamp,err where? then its a no brainer.

But you all go on about 'the project' the chairmans ambition, the wonderful place Southampton is to live in. Here's news, top players can go to club that don't need 'a project' to make Europe, they are in it every season and if not, very close to it. These clubs are all great cities, not a small city with no redeeming features. Believe it or not, players aren't fighting each other to be lucky enough to join Sputhampton. Ad before anyone claims I'm having a go at the club I think its a fantastic place we are in and that we are outside of the top 5 or 6 clubs in England, thes best place for a player to be . But the reality is we are competing with the clubs just outside the top 4 In top European leagues for the same players so we have to offer them something to come here.weve come a long way in ashort time and have never been one of 'names' in football, so its no surprise foreign players are thinking twice before signing on the dotted line. This the reality folks, not what you want to hear but how it is.