Turkish

Exactly. Crowds were lower, we got no where near capacity at all. So how were we restricted by the Dell back then?

You need to read the argument princess people keep banging on that in the 80s when we signed Keegan, Shilton and co If it wasn't for the damn capacity at the Dell we'd have surely fulfilled our potential back then and been the Man U of the 80s and hoovered up all these fans that we are just about to 30 years too late. We were restricted by the Dell in the late 90s, no doubt about it but to suggest we needed a bigger stadium when we got no where nee filling the one we had in our best season ever is the sort of logic only our self titled intellegent posters would come out with isn't it?

Like the England goalkeeper and European footballer of the year you mean? Another one who thinks we should expand some can fit more away fans in.

By how much more? By the way our biggest home attendance that season was still well short of capacity 21,141 v Tottenham. So why would our average have been higher?

We moved when it was sold out week after week and we had a 5 year waiting list for season tickets. In 1984 in our best ever season we had an average of 7,000 empty spaces a game over the course of a season. And in 1984 the Dell was far from sh*t, it was just like a lot of stadiums in that era. How were we limited by it when we had 7,000 empty spaces on average?

Our average attendance was 18000 in 1984, the capacity was 25,000 back then. How were we limited by the Dell?

How much ambition, resource and potential to grow did we have when we finished 2nd to one of the best sides this country has ecer produced. when we signed the European footballer of the year, England goalkeeper and best one in the world and almost signed Trevor Francis who was the most expensive player of his era?

Remain?

That's it. How do you think Nasri, Tevez, Aguero, Silva and Toure would get on against our back 3?

So if we play with 3 attacking midfielders and two strikers we'll be stronger defensively?

No Jamie. We need to play with 3 attacking midfielders and two strikers plus attacking full backs as defences will be better in the Premier league but and midfielders won't be.

It's undoubtedly a lot more as a percentage of all the new fans we have all across the south since we got relegated in 2005 will now be members.

Robert Snodgrass is attracting our attention I understand.

So are you suggesting we play with 3 attacking midfielders and one defensive one and that we change our entire game plan of using attacking full backs who can deliver all so we can have this central midfielder who can get beyond the strikers and score goals? Would you not take 45 goals and a mid table finish then?

Now you're talking. Me and Mrs Turkish would love to do that. It's what we would do for work that is the issue.

They finished 6th a few years ago so actually have finished higher than we ever have since the premier league started. Their biggest mistake was appointing Gary Megson, an incredibly bad manager and they've been in decline ever since.

A top notch goalkeeper is worth 15 points a season, as Niemi proved.

Yes you're right. The Mido rumour used to come around every few months. The golden boy of Egypt. Drogba was just before he went to Marseille wasn't it? Weren't we also in for Maluda?

Why? Our tactic of not having a cental midfield that can get beyond the strikers and attack the penalty area adding some goals worked perfectly well last season. Remind who scored the most goals in the division we were in.

How massive do you think it is?

I am honoured you would start posting a football forum because of me.

Calm down sunshine. In the past when people have expressed that view, which by the way i agree with, our sneering "intelligent & enlightened posters"have described that, perfectly sensible reasoning as "retarded logic". You are in mine, Kraken and CB Frys retarded logic gang.

Can i stand next to you with my "you dirty catalan bas*ards, we're coming for you" one on?

I can confirm you are now a member of the retarded logic poster group.

It's only since our relegation to league one we have suddenly now need a huge, massive stadium for when we get back to the premier league to cope with this demand that is going to appear from Man U fans in Epsom and 5,000 new fans in Trowbridge that weren't there 7 years ago.