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You forgot Fox and Hammond.

Maybe you should. Over 3 pages there have been some very good posts, some of the best I've seen on here for a while. So clearly not everyone seems to think its a "mong thread"

Why is it?

Who said they had to be married? It's you that keeps banging on about how great it is just to live together. Obviously there will always be cases, such as where abuse and violence mean couples shouldn't stay together, yet you agree it's best for the child in general if they do. Thanks for pointing out children will be happier in a happy household. BTF - giving lessons in the bleeding obvious.

How is the courtesy of asking a father for his approval to marry his daughter hype? For many fathers their daughters wedding is one of the most important and proud days In their lives. It certainly was for my FIL.

Oh dear, not getting it are you. Having observed my friends children some of which are still together and some of them aren't, I can honestly say the children with the parents who are together are happier than the ones that aren't. In fact a good friend of mine only keeps their marriage together because when they split up for a while the little boy was very unhappy, despite how they feel about each other the happiness of their child is the priority. All very Victorian I know but it seems to be the case in my experience.

Why do you give a f*ck? I work In Reading and am surrounded by plastic Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal fans. Funnily enough a lot of them have been Reading fans as well since Christmas. Those "fans" will never feel what it's like to win a big game. They'll never understand how it feels to grab a stranger Inside a football ground hugging each other and going mental because we've just scored a goal in a local derby. A sky sports subscription doesn't give you that. whenever any of these replica shirt clad idiots start giving it the big one I tell then they can talk to me about football when they actually go to a game until then their opinion means f*ck all.

So what we are saying is everyone on this thread thinks asking the FIL for his aproval is absolutely the correct thing to do apart from BTF who thinks it makes the lady chattel and a possession to give away. I'm not suggesting she has a chip on her shoulder it but.............

widowed parents is totally different, they haven't chosen not to stay together have they! Its better for a child to have both parents around, I know it doesn't fit in with your attempts to be cool but that is how it is.

This thread is comedy gold

Probably one of the greatest SFC pictures ever. The players are hating it.

Yeah, it's was on Terrestrial, f*ck sky.

Nope as I say, was full of JCLs, that ain't for me. I'm sure my seat went to some giant foam hander bulb who had their annual ay out away from their wife.

So what do you think of the view that children are less likely to be little f*ckers if both parents are about and Strong families result in a decent up bring for a child. Or is that too Victorian for your cool, modern views? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/5008047/A-strong-family-and-small-state-ought-to-go-hand-in-hand.html

I didn't go, because the ground was full of JCLs and people on Facebook banging on about how much they were looking forward to seeing Man United.

Again an excellent post. I'd go regardless of who we were playing. I really cant get excited about us seeing playing Man U and Chelsea. It really doesn't interst me. I go to see Saints

/\ so are you wanting these games because you want to see Saints or Man U and Liverpool?

Agree 100% with everything you say sir.

*Looks for round of applause emoticon* Some superb posts, this thread has restored my faith in internet mong boards.

That's labour for you mate, convincing everyone that their mental.

* puts on Tomobz speaks for me t-shirt*

Why does your nipper cry every time we don't win? We'll go,up, but you best get the lad used to losing, therese going to be plenty of it next season.

Would you go as far as to say it was a human tradition?

Thanks for that.

*puts on rshpeherd3 speaks of for me baseball cap*