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to be fair he isn't going to come out and say "Jack has made a right f*ck up joining Southampton, i told him not to but he wouldn't listen" is he.

* puts on kettle, sits back and waits to be told what mental problems and prejudices we have today*

I hope that wasn't aimed at me. Dont forget you convinced me a while ago i hate black people due to my avatar. I think they should be given medals for services to England, not banged up, based on what you have told me i think, of course.

You've missed the boat there mate. If anyone on here is going to hang out the back of BTF it's Verbal.

Bet he wishes he had something else like an Elephant as well......

You're not though are you Pal. You've got yourself a mighty fine therapist to help you understand yourself.

It's trial by media. There is no way people cannot be influenced one way or the other by what they have seen and heard in the press on this and every other high profile case. Remember the burden of proof is on the prosecution, they have to PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that they did it. There are people on here saying they know they did, so no doubt there will be people on the jury that will do and will have been influcened by the years and years of press coverage. You then have a situation where those on the jury will have to be convinced that they ARENT guilty, which isn't what British justice is supposed to be. I have my own views on the case based on what i have seen and heard in the media so of course i'd be biased. No one knows other than those involved, we can only assume based on what the media have told us.

What a load of nonsense these things are. Only work in a black and white, scenario based situation. Anyone that gives themselves a round of applause for getting the result they think they should be is clearly blagging the answers.

That doesn't change when you get to work mate, just get paid for it and overtime learn to hide it well.

The Brazil 1970 team, anything less is a lack of ambition.

What are you on about mate? WE are the new Barcelona FFS. We are Southampton, we'll sign who we want.

Never going to happen. Next silly rumour please. Only 2 1/2 months until the Jan window shuts FFS.

OH dont worry about it mate, he does it all the time. He is the bastion of racial equality, the guardian of this forum is our Verbal, thats why we love him. Everyone on here is racist according to him. It's his self appointed role just to make us aware of it. When i had Papa Lazirou from League of Gentlemen as my avatar a while back it was down to Verbal to make me realise i didn't have it because it was a funny character from a comedy i like, i chose it because i subconsiously (although not now thanks to him) hated black people.

Now now Franky boy let's cut that negative talk out. West Ender has already told us today it'll be a piece of pi*s to hang onto our new Beckham and Scholes and build a trophy winning side around them. It'll be easy when we are back in the top flight. Using History as our yardstick there are all sorts of examples that show this is possible and midtable clubs successfully keep World class players out of the clutches of the big boys and going onto champion league glory. We are just waiting for Westender to show us the examples, there must be thousands of them. And what's all this talk about a club of our sizes only hope of champions league football? We shouldn't rule it out afterall there are loads of reasons why it's possible. Clubs only need 22 players each. They are bringing in some sort of financial restrictions which will only effect big clubs, not everyone else. Something about us never being in this position before. Something about clubs stopping buying talented young English players because they'll go for cheap foreigners instead. Stop being so negative and listen to Westender, anyone would think you were a skate.

I think you'll find i was being ironic when i said it was pro-Cortese propoganda, due to the way everyone dismisses any negative article on here as *****r journalists peddling lies to destablise us. It's all very well having ambition and wanting to match Barcelona and Bayern Munich but quite another to do it, in case anyone hasn't noticed these are some of THE BIGGEST CLUBS IN THE WORLD. Quite frankly there is not a single piece of evidence to support the arguement that it can happen. In fact, everything points to the best we can do is what Villa did, get to a regular top 6 spot then have our best players sold off for inflated prices. Of course some people believe we are on an unstoppable march to the champions league and it's only a matter of time before Saints could be the new Barcelona and sweep all before us in our 50k stadium with a team full of academy graduates, anyone who says any different is lacking ambition. No one has come up with anything realistic to suggest it is possible and achieveable, other than it might be, because. Well. Anything is possible, they did say man would never walk on the moon.

We noticed.

We do, we love him. You're mistaken.

Now that is going a bit far...

Well having spoken to his dad at Dagenham away last season, discussed Sam moving here and his dad saying "he'd love to, he'd run through walls for Saints" and having seen him with his old man at games in the 90's and early 00's i think i can safely assume he is a Saints fan. Although Tim never actually said "he'd run through walls for Saints, he's a Saints fan"

Brighton have an anti Saints agenda.

It was you that started banging on about history. I am simply using your logic. of course using history as our guidelines this means Royal Engineers and Wanders who contested the first FA Cup final, it must mean it's possible for them to do it again, surely? Anything is possible isn't it? So remind me, Not because man walked on the moon. Not because man climbed everest. What evidence is there that we can repeat or better the greatest postion this club has ever achieved and get at least 2nd again?

Ahh history, i'm glad you've brought that up. So what in out 126 year history apart from our one season of finish second points to us EVER being able to repeat that feat? Surely if we took history into account Leeds, Nottingham Forest, West Ham, hell even Ipswich are well ahead of us on that score. I love your simplistic view of squads as well. 4 clubs x 22 players = 88, except clubs are allowed squads of 25 and players under 21 dont count in this. Yet despite these restrictions it hasn't stopped top clubs hoovering up all the promising young players at the moment, history suggests this wont change. Although Jonjo Shelvey, Carl Jenkinson and AOC might disagree with you.

That sure put Arsenal off with Chamberlain didn't it. Oh and Man City with Barry & Milner. Liverpool with Carroll, Henderson & Downing. Man United with Rooney, Jones, Smalling & Young. It is a fact that the only clubs in England that have successfully and consistantly, ie not your one off club legends like MLT, held onto any is Manchester United and to a lesser extent Liverpool. Even Arsenal couldn't keep Fabregas when a better deal was on offer. So for the reasons stated above. That only the biggest club in the country have held onto their young players and built a successful team round them. That clubs bigger than Saints have sold off their young stars for silly money. That for the last 100 years of football the top players have 99% of the time ended up at the top clubs and nothing suggests that is going to change. For those reasons i wont be joining you on planet championship manager, just yet.

Where have you been sir? THe forum is not the same without you. xx