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Please can you tell me what the waiting list for season tickets was during this period.

If you wanted a ticket you got one. THis is undeniable. You might havr had to get one a bit earlier but SFC were not turning away thousands of fans every week.

As per my previous post, Chelsea have always been a huge club, Stamford Bridges record attendance is 82k, yes they stayed away in the 80's and 90's probably due to Chelsea reputation off the pitch, electric fences and Ken Bates but the support has always been there. Stop going on about other clubs and tell me one season in our history when Saints have ever had a regular demand for more than 32k fans.

LMFAO!!! Where are these 25,000 extra fans now my friend? Where have they been in the whole history of SFC and what makes you think they will be there in the future, other than the, we can fill a 45k stadium every week because i say so, argument.

Thanks for being offended for her. As has been mentioned what do people class as reasonable? People are *****ing about paying £30 a game this season despite us going up a level. So come on what evidence is there that we can regularly get 40k+ crowds, which would make us one of the top 5 clubs in the country, other than you lot dreaming about it. Where are these extra 20,000+ fans right now? Where were they in 2003 when it was easy to get a ticket, despite our best season in 20 years.

YOu are confusing negativity with realism. Can we get more than 32k provided we invest heavily to make us a top half side, expand the stadium etc? Probably. Are we one of the best supported clubs in England, which some claim we are judging by their claims we could get 50k on some occasions? Absolutely not. I would love us to play in front of 50k a week at a sold out SMS but there is not one single piece of evidence that suggests we will. In one of our best ever seasons in 2003 generally if you wanted a ticket you got one. There was no waiting list for season tickets, no same day sell outs for big games etc etc. I know some of you seem to think that we are the new Barcelona and can become a champions league club with ease but do you really think there are another 20-30,000 Saints fans who would go regularly spending saturdays going for walks in th new forest at the moment as they are waiting for us to expand the stadium, sign world class players etc etc???

SFC = The only club in the world where the more successful and bigger we get, the more we pay on wages and transfer fees and stadium expanision the cheaper the ticket price gets.

And there is no evidence to suggest there will, bar one game of day trippers jumping on the bandwagon, these are not "keen supporters". Lets not forget Millwall have also taken 50k to Wembley in the recent past and they are lucky to get 15k at the New Den. I dont recall them saying they need a bigger stadium if they get to the premier league to support thier newly found massive fan base. Speculation that we suddenly have twice as many fans as we have right now is just that. In the PL we sold out most weeks, just about. No waiting least for season tickets, everyone that wanted a ticket got one. There is Zero evidence to suggest we could regularly get crowds of 40k, other than you lot dreaming about it.

/\ oi get off here, you're supposed to be on holiday lad!

another 20 pages here please of nonsense and mock ups of what our new away kit might look like. This should probably be a longer thread as you can all speculate on colours as well rather than just the red and white in some shape or form on the home kit. I'll kick us off, i hope it's not like this FFS.http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/other-uk-clubs/championship/southampton/1996-97-southampton-third-shirt-xl.html

This thread is 20 pages of the most pointless posts in internet forum history.

Two of the best and most realistic posts i've ever read on this forum which is full of deluded clowns. Now can we shut up once and for all about getting 50k crowds FFS.

No.

/\ but you are forgetting we have a St Andrews or Britannia Stadium capacity amount of extra fans all desperate to queue for tickets to Blackburn at home on a tuesday night once we get back to the premier league who have all become Saints fans since our relegation in 2005 :lol:

LOL. £100 million + to expand SMS and buy players to to get us to a top half premier league club and prices are going to come down!!! Mental.

No Suzy, read above, i dont doubt we would get more than 32k at times in the PL, but some people ARE saying we would get 45k on average and 50k for big games. This would make us the 4th best supported club in England and not only that some people think that despite paying 100's of millions to become a top half of the table side and extend SMS to over 50k it's going to become cheaper to watch Saints.

interestingly enough Peterboroughs redevelopment will mean less away fans. From a 4k capacity to 2.5k in that, shame as it's a great away terrace and would have loved us to fill it. I

:lol: Not forgetting the tens of millions of pounds of investment in the team to get us to a top half club and the 10's of millions of pounds of investment to expand the stadium to 50k, yet we are all going to pay less for the priviledge. Brilliant!

So what do you think the cost of tickets will be? Do you think when we've paid for the expanded stadium, premier league football and the investment to get us to the top half we'll still "only" be paying £30 a ticket? So you partly agree with my post earlier that the only way to get 50k crowds is to give Manchester United, Arsenal etc 15k away tickets judging by bigger capacity =more away fans.

You mentioned the price not me. It's you that thinks we'll have 22,000 extra fans every week than at that game all paying that sort of price for a ticket. and you've still ignored why YOU think we'll get 50k crowds.

not far off the cost of one premier league game at a lot of ground........

Well on that basis why not go the whole hog and expand up to 100k? We'd fill it, according to your logic all it needs is flexible ticketing prices, bit of investment, good academy etc.

But why do YOU think we will get 50k?

So your basis for thinking we will have bigger crowds than Liverpool is that there will be a flood of new supporters plus plastics. So what would you call the 10k that went to premier league but dont bother anymore? So wee are going to find another 27,000 extra plastics/new fans every week to add to the 23k or so regulars. I cant wait, we'll have more new/plastic fans at SMS than Stoke, Birmingham and Fulham have total fans at their grounds! What a fanstastically supported club we are.

Villa and Liverpools average was 10% and 5% below their biggest crowds. I appreciate Chelsea and Spurs are restricted by capacity. it's not about them though it's about us. What makes people think we would get bigger crowds than Liverpool? Please can someone explain to me what basis there is for assuming we would get crowds of 45k every week and 50k for "big" games. I cannot think of a single piece of logic that would say that we would average crowds of 13k more than when we had our best season since 1990.