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Stop getting jealous Scotty. xxx

and just when you thought there couldn't be more bellends in one place Supermikey turns up.... To be fair, i quite agree with you that you cant compare the two. however, whilst the students got out of hand the level of violence that occured is worse seen than at any EDL march, imagine if it had been they that attacked Prince Charles car, there would be public outcry, because it was a few middle class students its been largely brushed under the carpet. Regardless of if you agree with them or not though the liberal society that people want has granted them the right to voice their views it just seems that when some people act worse its dismissed as "getting out of hand" yet for others they are violent thugs intent on trouble. Imagine if the scences at the student protests had happened at a football match, the people involved would be getting 4 or 5 year sentances, no doubt about it.

Well if you say it it must be true.

Tell me something, do you find Micheal Mcintyre funny?

when was the last time an EDL member got 2 years 8 months for violent disorder at one of their marches? When was the last time you saw news footage of the EDL smashing up police cars and vans and terrorising a Prince and our future King by attacking his car? A less liberal society would have them executed for doing this.

I dont care, i am not one of them and i am not a student, i dont care much for students demostrating against fees or the EDL. You bleat on about how violent they are whilst ignoring the fact that the students were far more violent. Its typical of this forum, only seeing what they want to see, and if anyone points it out they are a racist, homophob etc etc...

You are a simpleton and incredibly easy to "fall" LOLZ

I find you all hilarious. You preach liberalism and freeness of speech, but only if its what you consider to be correct. A superbly arrogant and contradictory post came from our resident clown Verbal who claimed judging people is only for Saints (holy ones not footballl ones), yet then goes on to criticise and patronise at every opportunity. We've had the people that wrote the bible, the very basis of our christian society called knuckle draggers. I've been accused of being a racist and supporting the EDL because i've taken your liberal view that they have a right to a voice. I've been accused of being homophobic in a truely bizarre post for saying that a man would find a woman attractive to want to have sex with her. And our most recent contributor Mr SOlentStars fails to offer any opinion on any topic whatsoever, his only contribution (using this expression in its broadest possible sense) is an incedibly poor attempt at humour and **** taking. It's been fun the last few days and i think its confirmed the thought that this forum is full of wierdos who continually contradict themselves and will ignore everything possible regardless of how blatent it is in a desperate attempt to fit in with everyone else. Most of you need to stop getting yourselves at it and get a grip.

Arrest and sentancing statistic suggest they are now dont they. Although why bother with this when we can leap to assumptions.

How do you know i am frothing at the mouth? I'm actually chuckling to myself at the narrow mindedness on here and the leaping to accuse people of all sorts of things if they dont confirm to the mainstream view, it's hilarious, as is the hypocrisy.

I actually think you're a little bit mental.

Ignoring the usual sneering nature of your posts, of which you seem incapable of avoiding when making them, i dont see why it is so difficult for people to understand. If it was natural for men to raise children together then surely they'd be able to produce one. I know that doesn't fit most of your Pc, liberal thinking and i am sure you'll make your usual idiotic sneering reponse but the logic when applied to facts of nature are unarguable.

very good company, i've used them a few times myself. They are probably the best around.

go into IT sales mate, you military type tend to do quite well and with your knowledge already you'll laughing.

But given your stance of liberalism you should be applauding the actions of the EDL for voicing their beliefs. What they are doesn't matter, what matters is they are making use of their freedom to express their views. You may not agree with what they say, but in a liberal world they should be praised for standing up for their beliefs. Gay activists are, transexuals are, in a liberal society we should cast aside our own views and prejudices and commend these people for making their voices heard. * * JUst to be clear, not saying i agee or support this view point, or it is what i would or should do, it's what liberals should do.

not very liberal to stigmatise someone for standing up for what they believe in is it.

I've not said i support the EDL. If i do anyway what does it matter? I am allowed to without being stigmatised, you all believe in freedom of speech, do you not?

I am not defending them, i am defending their right to march and to have an opinion and a voice. Where have i defended their actions? Where have i defended their violence? Show me. you wont be able to because i wouldn't and haven't. Given the society that you want, liberal, live and let live, freedom of speech, they are entitled to, correct? And my point about "it not being natural" is correct. Two men cannot produce a baby together, they aren't meant to by nature, right or wrong? so how can it be natural for them to raise one?

hmmm, so fat fingers and an Iphone made you type one word when you meant to type a few lines did it?

Where? I've not "held the fort" i've simply said that given the society that you want with freedom of speech they are entitled to thier view. Right or wrong? Show me where i have said i support them or agree with them, do this and i will aplogise, you wont be able to though.

because i replied before you edited it, which simply said racist. obviously edited realising you'd made yourself look s bit of lemon.

eh?? Clearly you need a lesson in logic. Show me any evidence of this. Typical of this board jumping to conclusions without reading the facts.

Ridiculous comment, show me where i have said i support the EDL, other than saying, quite correctly, in this society they are entitled to their view.

I am not defending them. You dont seem to be reading my posts properly, read them again. Never once have i said "good on them, take to the streets and smash up a few immigrants while you are at it" Check my posts, i've neither condemned nor condoned them in these posts. It is typical of this board that if you dont outwardly agree with the majority and are not against something the forum superstars are against then you must be for it. I was accused of homophobia because i didn't agree with Elton John adopting a child, now i am being accussed of defending the EDL because i haven't said i dont support them or agree with them. As i said above, i am not particularly interested in what they do, i dont care much for them and are as relevant to me as the student protests. I am not a student so am not currently bothered if they have to pay fees or not, apply the same logic and you'll get my views on the EDL. However like it or not they are entitled to a view given the society we live in, which you lot wanted. Freedom of speech and expression. I am simply making the point that they are entitled to march and have their views as much as any other group in the country. You lot believe this, you lot believe in live and let live, you all said so on this thread. yet when it's something you dont agree with, those morals dont seem to apply.

Not jailed for anything relating to EDL marches though were they though. Come on, find someone jailed for violence carried out at EDL marches.