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Who is in your opinion a reliable outlet? What has led you to believe this is the case?

Who would you describe as a reliable outlet? And lve no idea why you keep banging on about the sun!

By "stopped engaging" you mean replying to pretty much every post i make then you sure did. The problem is, much like the Murdoch post as a recent example, pretty much most stuff goes over your head. Enjoy your train ride pal, as i've said before you could bore for England.

You can google it if yourself like, it's not hard, you'll likely find the same things as i did. Do you fact check every single article you read, what with it being a long process and all that?

Yoy seem to be completely incapable of having a discssion without getting all spiteful and personal. Sad.

they all gave different figures to the one given out by the Met Police. Some not giving figures at all or playing the numbers down, just saying more than 100. ANy closer to who we should believe on this one?

Yep, because the post and reaction clearly went over your head. And you accuse me of not getting it.

Jesus Wept.

Yes they are! One of the young lads in our team (23 one year off the grad scheme) has a centre parting and a malbrough classics denim jacket!!

Okay so lets take the BLM London protests as an example. The BBC and Guardian described them are largely peaceful protests, with images of black and white people stood side by side. Meanwhile other outlets showed videos of violence with articles describing rioting & mass arrests. Two very different versions of the same event. Who was right? Who do we believe?

okay so it comes down to personal choice. So does that not suggest that you would lean towards sources that confirm your own views? Soggy for example takes everything in the BBC and Guardian as gospel. Other people believe the BBC is full of fake news. WHo is right?

So if they all have ties to government getting most of their stories from, which ones are the most trustworthy?

whatever.

How do we decided what is a good and bad source? How about answering my quesiton about would you trust a newspaper with very close ties to the tory government? Or any other government for that matter.

So you've chose to completely ignore my point earlier when i stated clearly "Take your information from a wide range of sources* then form an opinion, do not only take your information from sources which are confirmation bias." and you launched into a defence of how great the Indepedant is

See there you go again, "you dont understand" "you dont get it" too most discussions end up with you having to resort to this when you get tied up in knots.

im not going to list all the occasions a media outlet had been shall we call it econimical with the truth, we'd be here all day! How would you feel about a newspaper, that had say, very close personal ties to the Conservative party, trustworthy or not?

In your opinion the analysis was shite. And we all know the reason for that was it was against your claims regarding a specific player.

How many times do they need to distort the truth to sell their own wares to not be trusted?

You reaction to the sun post was a great insight into your critical thinking skills. I posted some analysis they'd done on a football players and you imediately dismissed it because it was in the Sun and dismissed me by saying "could have guess you were a Sun reader" When in reality i googled something and that was the first link to come up. i haven't bought a copy of the Sun for 25 years, probably more. So i'd suggest your analysis and critical thinking skillls aren't what you think they are.

How and who decides which ones we trust and which ones we dont?

Unsurprisingly, you're totally missing the point.

But that contradicts your earlier statement "If you don't listen to those employed to give information who do you listen to?" Sun employees are also employed to give information So now you're saying we shouldn't listen to all people employed to give information, correct?

The other day you dismissed a link i posted as being from the Sun and your comment was "i could have guessed you'd be a sun reader" Sun journalists are employed to give information but you didn't want to accept it. Why are you now contradicting that view?

The other day you dismissed a link i posted as being from the Sun and your comment was "i could have guessed you'd be a sun reader" Sun journalists are employed to give information but you didn't want to accept it. Why are you now contradicting that view? Take your information from a wide range of sources* then form an opinion, do not only take your information from sources which are confirmation bias. *no this does not mean dickheads with youtube channels or twitter helmets.