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Everything posted by moonraker
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Leavers only care about one thing, leaving, people’s lives, jobs and welfare are secondary.
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A This in spades, and the ideological leavers are now rewriting the history of their own campaign, sadly they seem to have as many different versions as there are leavers.
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Thing is great numbers are not needed, the margin was small so as in most elections the battle is over a small number of floating voters. No one expects the Leave fundamentalists, the Empire craving oldies or the brainwashed far right thugs to change their minds, they won and no matter how bad that victory may turn out to be its winning what counts don't ya know.
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What can you possiblly find funny. The rise in racism is real and should be deplored by any right thinking person.
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Any quitters defending the rich quitter!!
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Obviously dickhead Dyson has seen th writing on the wall and has chosen to move his HQ from the U.K. to Singapore. Hypocrisy of the highest order, and leavers will still argue the rosy garden is just around the corner.
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Do you remember when we were told: a trade deal with the EU would be the easiest in history, that the NHS would get £350m a week, that Liam Fox would have 42 trade deals signed of by the time we leave, if the result is close its not over, ...........
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A and led to 3 wars and ongoing terroism and insurgency, innocent people are still paying with their lives.
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I agree a lot will be written about him, however it will not in the main show him a good light. As you say it will be written by proper historians, experts even.
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He will certainly go down in history, not for any achievement but for his destructive, regressive version of politics. A sel promotionalist who takes responsibility for nothing and gives nothing.
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G I was ignoring you and your arrogance, however your inability to acknowledge a man who gave great service to his country, as a Royal Marine, MI6 intelligence officer, fearless politician and internationally respected diplomat says so much about your self appointed sense of superiority and does nothing to detract from the life of a good man. How will your obituary compare?
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If any of our current crop,in any party, were half the person Paddy was, we would not be in the mess we are. RIP a great human, a patriot and a man of courage and conviction.
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So you are saying that even if she wins the vote it is actually the "Party Bigwigs" who will decide she has to resign, great to see democracy in action in the Tory party!
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Leave voters are not homogeneous entity tough are they, and we are all free to change our minds, neither you nor me have any idea how many leave voters there are in the country as of the 12 December 2018, it has been very well demonstrated that the leave vote was made up of a wide range of views; Those ideologically opposed to the EU or the hard Brexiters, those who are/were concerned about sovereignty, protest voters, those harping back to the golden era that never existed, and racists because if one thing is certain, not everyone who voted leave is a racist, but every racist voted leave and innumerable other reasons. You cannot set yourself up as the spokesperson for all leave voters any more than I can claim to represent all remain voters.
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What is your reference point, 6 months ago the odds were stacked against a referendum the trend (something you are keen on) so by your own standards yes referendum is more likely
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A So the odds tell us the deal is dead, doh! A second referendum is more likely, and that the tories won’t reverse article 50, not sure any of that is surprising or an indication of anything.
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This is football forum, childish puerility is the norm, the problem is that when one attempts to debate in an adult manner both sides descend very quickly to childish puerility. The biggest frustration being peoples inability to give a straight answer to a question.
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Are you sat with two pencils up your nose and your pants on your head constantly repeating the word wibble? you certainly sound like a loony, dismiss anything you dont like and promote a dubious reality, Brexit in nutshell.
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A great man from whom all of us could learn.
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Juice!
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Dyeing is an arse, he has very limited EU market for his products. He is. Quitter because that suits him, his posture is me me me, sound familiar?
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And there you have it, brexidiotman
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Sorry who is Matthew Flynn? why do you think the opinion of a junior hack on a Brexit broadsheet is the such a compelling argument, oh of course you do he is not an expert and therefore must have a far better understanding of the complexities of international finance than those who have actually got some experience and wisdom, you know all the ones that keep telling us that Brexit is bad for the economy.
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Listening to this Radio 4 Series might improve the standard of debate in this thread, and indeed in many others : https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bfd2qr
