moonraker

Youre far to nosey

The fan base and access to games (ground) capacity are key issues for English clubs. The top 5-6 PL teams have significantly larger fan bases and bigger capacities even tough Liverpool and TH both need new grounds and are searching for a solution. Catchment area is only the starting point for attracting fans I would surmise that the top 5-6 PL teams have more fans outside their geographical catchment area than within it. The reason fan base is key is more than just attendance and ground capacity it impacts on corporate, sponsorship and merchandising, to compete financially in the CL as a PL team you must maximise all of these. So the question for us "real" fans is what sort of club we want, if its CL football and top 6 PL then there will have to be some significant changes in the culture and character of SFC. It is only the arrival of NC that has given any validity to this discussion; people must therefore believe he can achieve something more than mid table mediocrity. The other challenge is that you have to dislodge and incumbent and they will not go quietly

The assessment has nothing to do with real football, it is straightforward statistical analysis. It does not take any account of individual club factors. How many of the clubs previously finishing 2nd in L1 have played (29 years) in the Premiership, how many of them had a real premiership set up in terms of Stadium, Training Facilities, support, academy and not least financial backing. The start we have had has been fantastic and provides a great platform for the rest of the season, however the majority of us are sensible enough to recognise that this is all it is, automatic promotion is possible but there is a long long way to go, hopefully we will be the exception to the bookies statistical rule!

Although born and bred in a small north Wiltshire village, my dad is from Southampton and as nipper in the 60's one of the most exciting things for me and my siblings was visiting our grandparents in the big city, well Woolston. My dad played for Southampton Schoolboys before WWII and took me to the dell for the first time in the mid 60's. My schoolmates supported a real range of teams but Spurs and Utd were popular due to their double and European cups respectively. Two local teams Swindon and Bristol Rovers (Bristol City were not represented) had a few fans, one particular Rovers fans dad had a mini bus and would fill it with kids to go to Rovers so for my teenage years I saw far more of Rovers than Saints, but Rovers were only ever 2nd to Saints and still are. The Rovers fan is now their Fans Director and has hardly missed Rovers game in 30 years. All my of my children support Saints, sadly my stepson is a Liverpool fan (he actually goes to Anfield regularly) but Saints are his 2nd team and comes with me and my youngest son 3 or 4 times a season. I now have a battle to ensure my step grandson makes the right choice.

Generally the BB's benefitted from the post war technological and welfare revolution however to dispel a few myths, whilst university was free and grants were common less than 10% benefited and the majority of those were middle class and upper class, the 11 plus decided ones fate very early in life, secondary modern schools were nor designed to foster intellectual or academic success, whilst jobs were easy to come by you had to be very respectful and do as you were told.

This would be a great signing, he was excellent when he was on loan, he also played for NA at Scunny on loan and was voted player of the season.

Gurkha Field Kitchen on the Falklands, combination of 3 days of ration packs and being utterly starving but it tasted out of this world, not just the best curry ever possibly one of the best meals ever.

The problem with your solution to "Make your party more popular" is that this requires two things, first money and the big donors have vested interests in the 2 big parties so both give more consideration to their donors aspirations than to ordinary voters, the second is activists and building support without money is nigh impossible. Its a catch 22, politics is not about the best policies it is about vested interest and money hence the no campaign being supported by an unholy alliance championing the status quo which satisfies the big donors aspirations.

If you vote for the candidate that has the most votes but not a majority your vote will count in each run off count. Another elector who placed the least supported candidate ahead of your first choice but your favoured candidate 2nd would have their vote counted the same amount of times. Run off voting (a form of AV) is widely used in most other areas of society including the Royal Navy for elections to mess offices, the difference is that in true run off voting you do actually vote twice and therefore can change your selection, a tad impractical in a national election. The simple truth is those who are opposed are not opposed on democratic grounds but on selfish grounds.

If changes to our antiquated 19th century voting system was all he wanted then he would have got more than referendum from boy David. AV is not enough but it is better than the rubbish system we currently have. Even the Tory leadership uses a more sophisticated system than FPTP, similar to AV.

This is tragic incident for the families and the services and my prayers are with the families and crew of Astute. Most of the early theorising, who did it (hippies ha ha), type of weapon etc were way off the mark. There will be an inquiry which will not be a cover up. The incident under the ice that DD referred to was a SCOG or a Self Contained Oxygen Candle and was subject to a full coroners enquiry and believe me the verdict did not pull any punches. The simple fact is that RN Submarines are manned by members of the Armed Forces all of whom are trained in small arms with additional regular training given to those who are expected to act as armed guards on a regular basis. Boats have had armed trot sentries since the middle of the 80's (way before 9/11), before this trot sentries were only armed in special circumstances. There can be no legislating for an individual who losses it however as with all such incidents lessons will be learnt.

It depends on the child, my experiences are, two of mine at 4, now 10 and 13 both still Saints Fans, eldest son at 6 now 26 still a saints fans, eldest daughter 22 stills a saints fan, grandson was 3 first game Peterborough away absolutely loved it. So my answer is I don't know, but if you think they are ready give it a go.

This has generated a lot of anger amongst the Bath City regulars, no surprise. However in essence it is a loss leading marketing campaign and as has been stated above they are trying to get 3000 for this game. Interestingly the club like saints have always offered good deals or combined adults and kids, is this not discriminating against those without children. Twerton Park is a good old fashioned ground to watch footy in and when they get 1500 plus in it has a great atmosphere.

Nothing like S**t on a raft or babies heads or a train smash, but definitely no oxtail soup

Because the last time they were in power we had a two party system ad FPTP works for that.

So the national health service , state pensions, tax credits, were not sensible ideas then, all of which were policies either enacted by the Liberal party or first proposed by them and then taken on by others. FPTP is undemocratic which is why it so appealing to tories, the party that fought universal suffrage tooth and nail. AV is one small step on the road to the UK of Great Britain and Northern Ireland returning to true democracy not this sham we have at the moment.

So we are not a laughing stock then, thanks penchant I agree this year the Third Division is a great place to watch football and the competition makes every game even more exciting. Good luck in the playoffs against Bompey!

Very rarely comment on away match threads as sadly I don't go to many away games, I did go to this one. A 300 mile round trip was well rewarded from an entertainment but not result perspective. I attended with my Grandson (his first Saints Game,3 yrs old, lives in Peterborough) eldest daughter and 2 sons. From the 5 minute I said that Smith would be the difference between the 2 teams and so it proved. Our defence could not contain him, his pace and physical approach were awesome. No saints player stood out but Seabourne is not good enough. A point at London Road is good, the game was entertaining despite the referee who was very poor. All in all a win would have been great but we didn't earn it, there is a long way to go and we do have a team more than capable of automatic promotion, the doomsayers can wait until the fat lady has sung.

Despite i coming from an MUFC message board this is a classic http://www.redcafe.net/f7/all-turn-kopites-26-1-40-a-317952/

Already had 2 plastic Manc fans I know phoning me to ask if I can get them a ticket, a two word reply was all they got F%%K off

Absolutely nothing wrong with his reaction, he is one of the most likeable managers.

Took all (4) of my children between the ages of 4 - 7, eldest now 26 youngest 9. All still follow Saints albeit in the eldest 2's case (rarely attend games) from a distance (Peterborough) youngest 2 go with me to Sat Games (6/7 a season) but not Evening games as its a 170 mile round trip. Have never had any trouble and the youngest is abosuloutly fanatical about Saints. We will all be going to the away game at Peterborough and taking my 3 year old Grandson for his first Game.

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This, saved me writing it.

You really are very self centred, you previously stated we have never had it so good, well thats an interesting statement form you considering you have always a hole heatedly derided the past 13 years of New Labour, 6 months of the coalition cannot have created achieved this.