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Far too sensible an approach for Russ who is determined to reinvent the way teams with less talent play the game. He'll be found out eventually and his support will dwindle away as more fans realise the damage he's doing to our club and players.

He was wasted sat on the bench when he should have been in the starting line up.

I think a lot of the anger on here today is due to disappointment and frustration at the team selection and the tactics. Having been really pleased at the incomings during the transfer window we expected to see a stronger and braver team selection. When we saw the team many of us suspected it would be a continuation of the abject display against Forest - we could see it coming and RM didn't disappoint. That is what has fueled a lot of the anger directed at Martin. I don't blame the players because they were used as cannon fodder today and it needn't have been like that. RM owns today's debacle.

This all day.

The owners can back him all they like but if the majority of the fanbase turn on him and he loses the dressing room he's toast.

Pochettino would get a tune out of this squad.

Some good ideas but he simply has to start Big Les because we have been physically bullied in midfield in our last two league matches.

Exactly - the way he is telling them to play is making them look like Sunday league footballers. In the end they'll get tired of continually being hung out to dry by his idiotic idea that he can coach them to play like prime Man City. Inevitably bickering and finger pointing will start. It was ok in the Championship when we were winning but the Premier League is another level. If his way worked all the Prem managers would be doing it - they don't because most of them are tactically knowledgeable enough to realise it won't work.

Exactly - he should be one of the first names on the team sheet because he is what our midfield has been missing for an age.

RM is actually hanging his own players out to dry particularly his defenders. He is asking them to play in a way that they aren't good enough to do at Premier League level. If any of them was capable of it they'd be playing for a top four side. However, because of his own vanity project he is drumming into them that they must play this crazy passing game from the back. When it inevitably breaks down continually and poor goals are conceded they are made to look the bad guys, they are made to look like far worse players than they actually are. The sad thing is that it will never work at this level and he is fooling less and less people - he doesn't have the talent to coach it. Even the commentators and opposition fans can see the utter folly of it. He really is a less than average coach who has come up with this idea that he can turn a squad of lower Premier League footballers into an elite team along the lines of Man City. As I said, it's his own vanity project and the sooner SR realise it's got zero chance of succeeding the sooner they'll realise they have to fire him. I just hope they don't leave it too long.

Lots of good points made here that I suspect most of us would agree with.

Nah, he's just floundering when being questioned.

He's a fraud and is about to get found out big time.

He didn't say that.....surely.

Or today you could go onto Everton's fans forum to cheer yourself up.

Well don't be surprised if in a poor system with players on the bench who clearly should be starting you don't get the best out of your talented players. You drop them in the middle of a shits how and they will drop in standard.

You telling me we have to put up with this utter shit until Christmas!

And that's before you even mention the cluster fuck of a starting line-up which invited this trouncing.

Almost totally on Russ that.

Super goal that.

Been saying this too. Insanity.

Snakeoil salesman I'm afraid. Surely he can't keep up the con for much longer.

How long have we been trying and failing this clown's suicidal system now? It's never going to work at this level.

Putting himself in the shopwindow if he's any sense.

Wait until we play the good sides. The record could tumble.