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I believe he was. I'm not sure if that's still the case. Pretty shameful that he was charged in the first place given that the justification for doing so was the alarm and distress caused to the man who attempted to murder him.

Imagine thinking that was a serious suggestion.

As I've said a million times, you continually demonstrate bad faith interpretations of what I've posted and then tell me what I meant by what I posted rather than what I've said and what I'm telling you I meant. It's not my fault if you and a few like-minded posters choose to wrongly interpret what I posted. If you're having trouble then the best thing to do is to ask for clarification or at the very least accept the explanation once it's been given. All I said was that freeing the hostages would be an achievement and that Trump will rightly receive plaudits for his part in that if it comes off. I'm assuming you don't disagree with that so you'd be better off trying not to pull me into a tiresome argument about something unrelated to that.

Perhaps the thing to do would be for the UN to create the 'greatest person in the world - much better than Obama or Biden award 2027' and say that Trump can only win it if he keeps peace in the Middle East and Ukraine for a year. Sounds mad I genuinely think he would consider that a good incentive.

At last some positive news coming out of our courts. The man convicted for burning a Qaran has won on appeal: "There is no offence of blasphemy in our law. Burning a Koran may be an act that many Muslims find desperately upsetting and offensive. The criminal law, however, is not a mechanism that seeks to avoid people being upset, even grievously upset. The right to freedom of expression, if it is a right worth having, must include the right to express views that offend, shock or disturb. "We live in a liberal democracy. One of the precious rights that affords us is to express our own views and read, hear and consider ideas without the state intervening to stop us doing so. The price we pay for that is having to allow others to exercise the same rights, even if that upsets, offends or shocks us." Well said whoever those judges were.

You said I was suggesting that "we don't need more than that". I wasn't. You made that up. I was saying that getting the hostages released would be an achievement which it would be. I accused you of making stuff up because you did.

I've literally credited Blair above if he has some part in it. The clear implication from not saying that Trump is solely responsible and that he is an important part of this is that others have some share of credit too. Odd as usual that you think otherwise.

In that case I agree. I don't think anyone on this forum has lauded Trump in that manner, maybe some of the maga lot have. I tend to agree that the chance of this being a long term success is small. Things are definitely a lot better than they were even a few weeks ago though and we should celebrate the victories when we get them.

Please quote anywhere where I have said he deserves all the credit. It seems you're having an argument with yourself.

You're making things up now. The hostages being released is an achievement if it happens which Trump will deserve some credit for securing. If everything goes to shit after that happens it doesn't make the release of the hostages not an achievement. I've never once said "we don't need more than that."

I don't even support Trump. Personally I find him brash and displaying the worst traits of a stereotypical American. I can however recognise when he does something positive even if it's for self serving reasons. I find it funny when clearly some people in society want to downplay this achievement -again, assuming it happens-primarily because Trump has had a big hand in it happening. There are some people who would rather this wasn't happening because they don't like the fact that Trump can boast about it and because he's been involved. For those people it's never been about 'stop the genocide.'

I never wanted to give him sole credit. I did make him out to be the most important because he clearly is. Without his direct involvement this wouldn't be happening. The negotiators include people Donny has direct involvement in appointing. I've never said it's all him just to be clear.

What does securing the release of the hostage shave to do with what happens over the next six months? If they're released next week then it's superb news and a great positive for which Trump and his administration deserve great credit even if things go wrong after that. Maybe they will be due some criticism if that happens as well.

Lol. Just admit that someone you hate might have done something positive. I despise everything about Blair but if he has assisted with this then he deserves his share of the credit too.

He was the most important person involved though clearly. Even if you hate Trump it's clear that without his involvement this wouldn't be happening. Let's just hope the hostages are actually released in a few days then that's something to celebrate.

Unfortunately quite a few mass murderering Hamas members are getting released too. Let's hope these extremists don't get the chance to blow everything up:

If the hostages are all freed then that's indisputably something great even if what follows afterwards isn't.

Interested to know why you don't think it would. It's a shame they have to release some terrorists on the other side but that's the negotiation I suppose.

100%. Controlled immigration is obviously a good thing.

Sure. At least it's honest.

Of course but Trump and his team has clearly played a significant part. If the hostages are released they will deserve a significant amount of the credit.

That's why I said "will deserve a lot of credit." It appears that it will happen soon.

Regardless of if the subsequent parts of peace plan fail, Trump and his team will deserve a lot of credit for getting the remaining hostages back. Admittedly his motives are self serving but it doesn't really matter.

So if they had all rejected the peace plan it would have been the failure of the negotiators and not Trump's fault?

We know THB is a good player having a bad patch of form. You could put Wood in there but at the start of the season no on was starting wood over THB.