hypochondriac

Bit of a meh player for me so far, a bit like many of the players we have signed in the last few years. Hojbjerg is improving though so there's hope once they adapt to the English game.

Agreed. Antonio in January please.

It makes me wistful and longing for the days when we had Sammy Saint doing gangnam style.

What friends are you referring to?

There you have nothing. I've never once claimed that Corbyn was a proven anti semite and the parallels between Orban and corbyn in this instance were entirely obvious so let's not pretend you've somehow managed to see something that wasn't clear to everyone else. I have claimed that Corbyn has allowed anti semitic feeling to grow within the Labour Party and also that an argument could be made that he is anti semitic just as you could with Orban. If corbyn supporters have been trying to get that point across then they are more stupid than I thought since precisely nobody has tried to claim that being critical of Israel in isolation is the reason why he was being called anti semitic. And I also never claimed that the quote above was solely about Soros. I assumed he was talking about globalists and what he sees as the erosion of nation states by powerful individuals like Soros if what was reported was accurate. I can absolutely see why he would be accused of anti semitism for a quote like that though in exactly the same way that I could see corbyn accused of the same thing for his words and actions. I'm not really sure how you can refer to Orban with such certainty as a "proven anti semite" and then not use the exact same logic to make the same claim about corbyn unless you have some sort of double standard. It's not often that I agree with verbal but he at least poses some good points with his earlier post: "It is not anti-Semitic to criticise the actions and policies of the Israeli government - especially with the vicious Netanyahu in power. It is anti-Semitic to question the 'Englishness' of a Jew or some Jews. That's what Corbyn did - which makes him a rather old fashioned, straight down-the-line anti-Semite. As the Tebbit Test is to Pakistanis, so Corbyn's Irony Test is to Jews."

I don't claim to know an awful lot about Orban, what is clear though is that there are strong arguments from both sides on this issue and it's certainly not as proven as Bexy claimed it was. Orban himself would vehemently deny it for example just as corbyn would.

Do you have any other quotes from Soros that make him a proven anti semite? Or are you basing that assertion purely on that one quote? Edit: I've just had a look at a few news articles and it seems Hungarian Jews are thriving and Orban seems to have a good relationship with the current Israeli regime. Pretty weird thing for an anti semite to be doing. Orban may be anti semitic but it doesn't appear as cut and dried and "proven" as you claimed.

Disliking Soros and his actions is not anti semitic. If he were hated because he was a jew then fair enough but that isn't generally what people have a problem with.

Would you consider it particularly likely that the international community and our public statements on the issue would all be based on a little bit of cctv and a couple of interviews? You're clearly a very intelligent bloke, you know that we will have a load of evidence that would make us certain that these guys are the guilty ones and there's very good reasons why we haven't made that evidence public. You're right that there isn't enough in the public domain to secure a conviction but I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that point.

I genuinely didn't realise Orban was a proven anti semite. Do you have some articles around that would show that? I'm not trolling, I just wasn't aware of that other than the fact that he has some serious beef with Soros.

You couldn't really do that though because they can only be accessible at a certain time. I guess you could cordon them off but it isn't the best solution.

Agreed. Contact less only would speed things up immensely. Dealing with cash is part of the problem.

Like mocking Islam for example.

I only noticed the smile.

That may be true but if there's a lovely pair of Bristols you're going to have a look

You might get a bit of camel toe tbf

No idea you'd have to ask him. Not sure why a Watford fan is still posting on here to be honest...

I don't need any advice from someone who gets told off by their partner for posting on here thanks.

I don't agree with identity politics because the rationale behind it is that people from the same sex or ethnic group as us all think and act the same way which is clearly nonsense. In the main identity politics is divisive and seeks to divide people rather than bringing them together which is what I oppose. Women and minorities have faced historic oppression but the type of women involved in the women's and equalities commission like Jess Phillips have no interest in actual equality, they are mostly man hating sjws who laugh at the idea of tackling men's issues such as the high suicide rate, parental rights or prison sentences but do what to make misogyny a hate crime and see men prosecuted for wolf whistling.

Blimey soggy has said something sensible that I agree with for once! I doubt this will happen again any time soon. The main issue emenates from things like the "women and equalities commission." are women not already covered under the equalities bit? Why are women stated explicitly in that title? Are there not specific inequalities faced by men that do not apply to women and if so why not call it the men's women's and equalities commission? It's because the radical feminists who lobby for this sort of thing have no interest in real equality of opportunity, they just want privileges. It's also why it's perfectly acceptable to call for the death of "white people" on twitter without any sort of censure and yet you're immediately banned if you use any other ethnic group. Your legitimate grievances or issues do not matter or matter much less if you happen to not be from one of the protected classes. Its just one of many reasons why identity politics is so cancerous.

Yep. That about sums it up.

The choice isn't between supporting a big club and the current incarnation of saints. I'd rather support the version of saints from three or four years ago than the saints of the last two seasons. Agreed?

It was me and the reactions were on the transfer window thread not this one.

Good article. There's no doubt that we have lost our way and it will result in relegation over the next few years unless we change tack and do something differently.

Indeed. There are some "poor" individuals in this country in comparison to others in the UK, but real poverty doesn't actually exist e.g. People dying from hunger.