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Thanks moonraker for once you and I agree. Good post.

I'm glad I lost you. Hopefully I'll stay lost in your mind. You've already shown yourself to be spectacularly closed minded so maybe best that you stop trying to understand what I write.

I love how when these hypothetical scenarios come up, people love to add all sorts of conditions and things. The question wasn't whether you would prefer us to stay up and win the Cup or what you would have liked five years ago.

I'm happy to be on the side of someone who is fighting to combat the high suicide rates, unfair sentencing and paternal rights of men whereas you appear to be on the side of someone like Jess Philips who displays open contempt for the opposite sex and who laughs at the idea of setting aside some time to discuss things in parliament like men killing themselves. Her and other odious shrews like her in parliament are the ones sowing the seeds of discord and certainly not Davies. Despite his numerous flaws, at least you can say that corbyn is attempting to do what he believes is right no matter how misguided he is. The same cannot be said for the likes of Jess Phillips- read just a small portion of her book to see how her mind works.

Do you have a link to where he referred to the electorate as workshy spongers? Thanks.

It's absolutely unreasonable to infer his reasoning for these votes until you've heard his reasons. It's one of the reasons that politics is so grossly polarised. I'd rather make my mind up on any politician by listening to what they say and their reasonings before jumping to the bit where we condemn them.

Simply giving a list of votes for or against something without providing the reasons for voting that way is ridiculously simplistic. Far better to look at the reasoning behind those votes as I explained with the Philip Davies example. He may have reasoning that I disagree with but I'm not going to condemn any political for voting against something - including the likes of corbyn- without listening to why they voted against it. They could have perfectly logical reasons even if I disagree with their opinion.

You haven't provided any context with this list so it's largely meaningless. As an example, Philip Davies is often condemned by feminists for voting against a bill against violence against women and domestic violence, but what they don't tell you is that it is because he opposed violence against everyone including women and opposed the fact that women were singled out. It would be much more interesting to listen to why Rees-Mogg voted against these bills and I rather suspect the answer would not be because he is a heartless monster who despises the poor. Much more likely that he is ideologically opposed to the way our benefits system works- we would have to ask him for details. Much too simplistic to use someone's voting record as a stick to beat them with- and the same with Corbyn and his record too.

He's happy to vote in favour of things like the bedroom tax, but then happily accepts £7m of public money to refurbish his wife's ancestral home. It was his mother in law's house and he had no involvement in the campaign to restore it. It wasn't anything to do with him. He believes the existence of food banks in the 6th richest country in the world is a wonderful thing. He's correct when he says that the reason that food bank use has risen is at least in part because there is no longer a policy at job centres not to tell people of their existence- something that the Job Centre routinely did under Labour. He strikes me as somebody who would happily take us back to Victorian times if he could, throwing the poor into workhouses. To me, he personifies the very worst kind of corrupt, self-serving, entitled, out-of-touch elitist in our society. A relic of a bygone age that refuse to die out. Personally I think that's a hugely unfair accusation based primarily on the fact that he happens to be rich and posh. The truth is that the current hard left Labour party do not give a stuff about ordinary working people and the lower class. A large part of it consists of comfortable middle class people pandering to a caricature of what they believe the working class to be and telling those people what is best for them. They looked down their noses at the legitimate concerns of those people during brexit, dismissed many of them as racist and sexist and had very little interest in their legitimate concerns.Hard left Labour under Corbyn is not the party of the working class. In most interviews I have seen of him, he has demonstrated that he realises what a fortunate position he is in and also what a responsible job he has to represent his constituency. You have no evidence at all that suggests he would be eager to "take us back to Victorian times" or "throw people in the workhouse" that's just your own bias getting the better of you because you don't like the man. The fact he can get on with such hideous harpies like Jess Phillips says a lot. Say what you like about him and where he has come from but at least he is genuine and says what he thinks honestly and with no hideous pretence like Cameron- in that sense he is rather similar to Corbyn.

My prediction is those saying survival started supporting the club fairly recently.

Cup win 110%.

What exactly has rees-mogg done in your mind that makes him a muppet or an unsavoury character? Other than being posh and having some opinions on abortion and brexit that some disagree with, what has he said or done that is so offensive? I disagree with much of what corbyn says but I don't think he is unsavoury, I mostly think he is someone who believes what he says and has good intentions. In many ways he is a useful tool for those sinister people behind him like mcdonnell who genuinely are scary.

Edit: double post.

Oh absolutely. The far left are in a class of their own when it comes to silencing dissent and creating legislation specifically designed to prevent others from talking when they don't like what they are saying.

Yeah it's all a big media conspiracy. No concerning behaviour from Momentum members whatsoever.

Indeed https://youtu.be/2FbWsINjpRY

As was I. Christ we were dogsh*t that day.

Great signing. Has done nothing but be professional since he's been here, has generally performed well and will leave with my thanks in the summer however we end up.

Salah for me.

This country is crying out for a new political party with some passion, some impetus and dare I say it some "momentum". All we have at the moment is a tory party dying on its a*se with a damp rag of a leader and the terrifying prospect of a socialist and the radical Labour left in power in the form of corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell and Momentum. Our political system is partly to blame which means that no one else can come to power in the same way Macron has in France. Those parts of the electorate who only ever vote Tory or Labour are also to blame too. Politics in Britain is incredibly stale.

Can you honestly not thing of any examples of bullying and/ or aggressive behaviour by members of momentum over the last few years?

Nothing at all at saints to suggest he was average. Could be absolutely rubbish wherever he goes but he was great for us and I'm not going to lessen his achievement with us by saying otherwise.

Oh well in that case I totally agree. We had some cracking players for the championship but we also had a great manager who got us playing some brilliant football. It was a combination of the two.

What's with the attitude? I largely agree with you. It's a combination of the players and the manager and adkins was fantastic for us but we also had some incredible players, particularly for league one.

Hopefully get a confidence boosting win today. Still most likely to see the fixture again next season...