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To be honest I think I prefer his approach because we are doing well. If we start doing shit again I can see it starting to grate. Last two press conferences have been a snore fest but as I said it really doesn't matter if he is a success.

Just a shame about the money wasted on Quarshie and Downs.

Tonda comes across as a bit boring and on the face of it doesn't seem very inspiring. No one will give the smallest shit about any of that if he keeps being successful. Managers can achieve success in different ways.

Charlton was impressive but it's also true to say that Charlton played in a way that we won't be encountering very often in this league. If we can get big wins against teams with a low block who will look to frustrate us all game then I think we are on the right track. Obviously don't expect us to win every game.

I genuinely think it depends on the results. If Leicester beat us 1-0 because they injure three of our players and deceive the ref to get two of our players sent off then I'm hardly going to be criticising the manager. We shouldn't be making long term decisions based on one or two games, we need to look at after these five which I think is a reasonable amount of time to make an assessment. We are only three games in.

Personally it's more about the performance combined with the results. If we put in decent performances and are a bit unlucky over the next two then I could see him getting the job regardless.

You are correct. Say we get smashed tomorrow then you'll have a load of people doubting again. These next two games should tell us a lot and I would look at the five games in total after Saturday and make a decision then.

Now all we need is for Scienza to score the winner at Fratton and he will cement his status as a modern day legend.

Indeed. If Tonda shows he can figure out teams that shut up shop against us then he deserves the job quite frankly. That's the unknown so far.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2k4jg0wkj4o How can this be permitted? Do the people involved have the surname Mengele?

I'm not detracting anything. We played poorly in the previous two games and won the games. We played extremely well in the first half of this game and won the game. Let's take stock after Leicester and Millwall. If we play similarly then regardless of the result you'd have to say he's made a strong case for himself.

In all politeness; fuck off.

It's a magnificent result and brilliant first half but I do think at least some of it was that Charlton played very poorly. I'd like to see this performance repeated in other games before I proclaim Tonda as the answer. Great start though.

Nah

Fatima whitbread, Kelly Holmes, Christine ohurogu, even someone like Nicolas Adams. None of them were criticised due to their skin colour.

Daley Thompson is one for me.

Judging on posting style I always imagined more to be some sort of distinguished elder gentleman figure. This anecdote has rather punctured that particular mental picture.

I heard a stat that trans people are less likely to be murdered than an average member of the public but much more likely to kill themselves. Might have been US centric though.

Good point. White footballers are famously loved universally and never criticised

Thinking that Bellingham is a bit arrogant, not much of a team player and whilst incredibly talented acts like a dick at times is racist apparently according to Ian Wright. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/ckgkg1d49v7o FFS it seems like so many black people in the media are at it recently. Lenny Henry is another one. Is it possible to criticise Bellingham for having a poor attitude without it being because he's black? Rooney got both barrels when he had a go at fans down the camera for how he acted.

I don't think you're going to find many or even any on here that doesn't agree that liberal use of the N word is offensive. The examples you used earlier were rather more difficult to find offense in though- hence my earlier post. Fry's point was that simply being offended by something doesn't strip the original comment of any purpose or somehow make it wrong. Use of the N word is wrong in almost all circumstances, not because you might personally be offended by it but due to its racist history and because of its use in appalling acts of racist abuse. I don't believe that applies to the posts you highlighted earlier.

I think it's a fair point about levels of representation for a fan board. I haven't looked in great detail but after a browse it does appear to not be the most representative cross section of the fan base. I think it's true to say that in recent years initiatives like this attract certain types of people on average who are into identity politics and some people would prefer to keep that element out of football where possible. Taking the piss out of the way people look is a bit below the belt for me personally but I'm not sure in what way it's homophobic. The comment about safe spaces and the one about appointing spmepne who ticks a lot of boxes is meant to be humorous clearly. It's a fact that we engage in a lot of this performative identity stuff just like every other club does. Some people love it but others would really rather it wasn't in football at all.

What's the equivalent of that in this thread? Mostly the bits you have highlighted are just people taking the piss out of the people on the fan advisory board. Not particularly kind or pleasant I agree and not something I engaged in but I fail to see how it's homophobic.

No he was messaging her because she has previously refused to speak out against abuse of children.

Not only that. If there is an offensive and homophobic post that I've missed I want to join him in condemning it and asking it to be removed.