NickG

your comparison doesn't work on any level. Far to simplistic and personal assessment. Every chairman (who was ours in 74? think Ted Bates was on the board?) who is in post when relegated is a total failure? Ridiculous. Yes he is worthy of blame but your ignoring the other facts is biased - if its that simple give him the total credit for the cup final?

when you look at the teams who have been relegated before and since we need to realise that we did not have a god given right to premiership football. We should have stayed up and could have, but equally we could have easily been relegated before. There have been mistakes by management, players, bad luck etc and of course Lowe has made big mistakes. It is difficult to put things down to one decision, the previuosly made points on bad management are true, as are good decisions like WGS and Hoddle -neither obviuos appointments at the time. As a club our size we could sit anywhere from around 8th in premiership to top 8 of CCC. We got relegated, it happens, and the rest of the country probably thought it was overdue. A play off finish again probably would not have surprised the rest of the footballing world. However, we should not be a team struggling to cpmpete in the CCC -both footballing and financially.

sorry i didn't make that clear, but that is what I meant -Lowe appointed badly and deserves blame for that.

its just easier to blame one unpopular man for everything (rather than some of it!) but doesn't neccessrily make it right!

at least we have him for 4 years then! we offer more than prestige, training facilities, stadium etc than most in this division - but not in the way of cash!

our decline would have started years ago if it were not for MLT. Bizarrely, in the few years -about 5? without checking - directly before relegation we were finally getting rid of the perenial relegation favorites and had decent finishes. Lowe made mistakes but saying relegation is totally his fault is no fairer than saying he deserves total credit for reaching the cup final. Mixture of no MLT Svennson's injury bad luck and appointments with managers out turn - in that I mean several bigger clubs were relegated in that time and we had been punching above our weight.

can't remember his words so didn't quote, but thought he hinted smaller nation -was thinking somewhere with money

I enjoyed Nicholl time so would probably go for him, Hoddle -made me very optimistic, as he did most fans, that we were really on the up -until he left.

strange bloke but when he was here I was more optimistic about the future than any manager since. Heard interview with him this week when he said that he does not see himself ever returning to club management. When this project is up and running he would like to combine it with part-time management of a national team.

this is sarcism? Not in the same class (or even school!) as those or Nicholl for what he did for us. He was not bad but success??!! strange:confused:

he wanted out long before Jan arrived

I am not a Lowe supporter - I gladly shared a pint with Lee Hoos at his demise just am aware that we are not blessed with options and understand some of the problems facing whoever is in charge. And also support a team not a boardroom.

but not changing and boring, sorry but it is.

why are people still going on about whether they are supporters or not of board members? Wouldn't it be good if the forum blanked out (as it does with swear words) any reference to any board members, past, present or potential, for a week?

not saying its all sorted yet but when we fail to beat these teams, or play pretty football and lose -people moan saying these are the games we need to win and why don't we forget pretty football and grind out wins! Sounds from radio summaries that it was comfortable.

didn't they issue a public letter?

thinking about it -we would struggle to find the 1 or 2%!

like 98% of threads on here!

other side of that is that we had not been playing badly for that long so perhaps not too hard to reverse. Old arguement but I would say JP inherited club in even more turmoil and worse squad, still not on a high from last year as well

sorry mate, not sure if I am being slow but in one post you say he was infront of back four and another as CB?

according to the radio he played CB until last 20 mins?

never quoted or visited a scooby thread before! Is this stat correct? Surprised if it is -especially considering the players NP had.

not me. Missing first home game for years, boring victory please (yep selfishly don't want to miss a classic!)

missing Tuesday's -first home for few years inc friendlies - so comfortable win but don't make me miss a classic!

didn't take long! That's them and Derby who are useless in this division then!