Winnersaint

Happy New Year Neil. I have added you.

Dr W I can only endorse what VFTT says. Get yourself a Strava account! Join the club! Happy New Year to you and your family.

I've added you Neil. BTW quite a few predominantly MTBs record their off road stuff on Strava as well as road rides and turbo sessions. Here's to good riding for 2014! Happy New Year.

Best place for it now. There is a discussion section on the Strata club thingy I created. Maybe very cycling specific stuff could be posted there.

Now a club of two. I assume that's you VFTT that I've added. I'll set up the chat on it tomorrow.

Go for it. You won't regret it. Having good accurate data about yourself is crucial in goal setting particularly in an endurance sport like cycling. If you do get this, you can do a simple VO2 Max test on your turbo that you can use to set your training zones using your HRM. Warm up thoroughly for 10 minutes. Use a lowish gear. I have a triple on the bike on my turbo so that's using the 39/19 gear at around 21 kph (13mph in old money). In the ninth minute change up to your next gear staying in the same front ring and increase your pace. This would bring it up in my case to around Zone 3 (17-18mph). As the ten minutes warm up finishes hit the lap button on the Garmin and go as hard as you can sustain for 6 minutes at as even a pace as you can. It is no good going off at 25mph if at the end you are struggling to maintain 13mph. At the end of the 6 minutes hit the lap button again to stop the lap and cool down at warm up pace for 10 minutes. This should give you max and average heart rates for when you are working beyond your lactate threshold. You must make sure you finish the test interval, another reason not to go all Billy Big ****** with it. All you need then is to work out your max heart rate (220 bpm - age in years) and you should then be able to work out your training zones from there. Plenty of info on web as to how to do this although Garmin devices will work it out for you if ANT+ enabled with HRM. I know all this sounds geeky **** but unstructured training using the turbo just won't work. You can't just sit on the bike and ride. If you do boredom will set in and very quickly the turbo wiull be a redundat item in the garage.None of this advice is my own, but I paid £15 for a self-coaching manual from http://www.flammerouge.je/home/home.htm on the say so of a friend Much of what I have said has been gleaned and from this, which I consider money very well spent.

Gone for it VFTT. http://app.strava.com/clubs/45350

Grow to love the turbo. Ideal for interval training. If you want any tips let me know. Training entirely in garage at present. Got Garmin Edge 500 with cadence and HRM for birthday. Very useful! As for my goals. Sub 30 min 10 mile time trial. (will be on road bike). Sub 3hr 30 for Dorset Rotary Cycle ride in September. 100 mile sportive ticked off. Get to 80 kg to give me a fighting chance in the Hambleden Valley (Rotton Row, Holloway Lane out of Turville, Pishill, Icehouse Lane and the Vineyard climb) PRs on as many Strava segments as I can and if the lottery comes up, I'll be off to the to the Alps. The Cormet de Roseland seems to have my name on it. Happy sporting 2014.

Why do you keep referring to the manager as Mopo? As disrespectful as if someone referred to you as a WUM *****!

Cyber point scoring again Skate Bazza?

Another fecking troll?

Went into the series undercooked.

i agree there here is much that is familiar with Sky's marginal gains here. Also worth noting that Sky hit their targets earlier than expected. Dave Brailsford's achievements will hopefully be mirrored by Nicola Cortese. I fancy they are very much cut from the same cloth.

I just don't understand why that is so important to you or anyone for that matter. It's Saints we win some we lose some. Goes with the territory, has done since I first went in 1963. I was about to say that I do not know why it matters so much but then I realised it used to matter so much more in my teens and twenties, and we were really good then!

Cannot believe trolls like you. Why don't you just **** off. It's boring. I can live with Saints losing, god knows I've had enough practice at learning to accept it, I just cannot explain how ............. **** it I cant be arsed to argue anymore. Mods get rid of these trolling tossers!

Hope I am wrong, but can see the mongs out in force again at the weekend.

Only takes a couple of defeats for all the trolling mongs to resurface. TBH I don't let how Saints do affect me much anymore. If they win it's good, if they lose 'sh1t happens'. That's it for me and this part of the forum. Never been much of poster, partly because I can't be arsed to hold an opinion and argue it via a keyboard, face to face seems to suit me better. Less chance for outright mongs to hide in my opinion. Mods take note this board has been ruined by the trolls and the loonies have taken over the asylum. Maybe I just don't get internet forums and social media. I'll still lurk and post on anything cycling related on General Sport and keep a sane dialogue with the likes of VFTT, Badgerx16, sandwichsaint and any other MAMILS that care to join in the discussion

Happy Birthday! Was there at the Dell on Easter Monday 1966 when he made his debut. One on one he had no equal. A truly remarkable player and personality. So hard to convey how good these older players were. Given modern training, diet and tactical differences, he would have probably been a world beater. That said it wasn't all about success. He was seen as the natural successor to Martin Chivers when he went to Spuds, but still took a fair while to break into the first team. Was in the Combination Cup team (Reserves) in 1969 but was a first team fixture from the following season onwards. Legend is an overused term these days. Mick Channon was a true legend,

Yes, but the troll knows how much it annoys, so he sticks it in to get a bite.

Jesus saves! and Channon scores the rebounds!

Am I alone in thinking Sven Bender is a funny name?

Like watching saints. Chile, that is.

I've got a feeling that was the team rote taught to me by my dad when I was very slightly younger, probably the previous winter when there was sod all football going on. Vaguely remember Harry Penk and being disappointed that John Sydenham wasn't playing. The Leeds side was the embryonic Don Revie team which got promoted with Sunderland and reached the Cup Final the following year. i think John Giles had signed from Man U and the midfield included Billy Bremner and Bobby Collins who'd signed from Everton. That was some midfield. I hadn't reached my sixth birthday by the time I watched the game on my Dads shoulders on the Archers terrace.

RIP A member of the first Saints team I saw. Reynolds Williams Traynor Wimshurst Knapp Huxford Paine O'Brien Kirby Burnside Sydenham Saturday 26th October 1963. Crikey just realised I've racked up a half-century of saints supporting.

Decent upgrade on the wheels from standard Reparto Corse. What clipless arrangement did you go with road or mtb?