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Well he is here until 2018 unless the club think his inflated fee makes him worth selling. So in a few words you either pay or **** off. He isn't going to kick off because not playing won't get him in the England team with the Euro qualifiers up next.

Liverpool or anyone else that wants to buy one of our players is going to have to pay through the nose. Nobody is going anywhere for their value. Because of the long contracts a massive fee up front will be the requirement. Liverpool have done nothing yet that convinces me that they want to or can afford to do that and pay inflated wages. Sadly for Liverpool to buy Lambert, Lallana and Lovren it is pretty much going to cost them their complete £60m 2014 budget.

These matters will be resolved. Firstly all our players have a value but secondly because they are on long contracts we don't have to sell and thirdly if we do decide to let anyone leave it will be for a fee well over the value of the player. It's all very well Liverpool, MU, Spurs, Uncle Tom Cobley and all bidding, but they are going to have to pay enormous premiums for any of our players. That in itself may well mean nobody leaves or if they do we more than afford to replace them. Liverpool are a joke as their bids are on the cheap plus unsettling the players. Pay up or **** off.

They seem to be having the same problem reaching agreement with Seville. If Suarez goes it doesn't matter who they buy they will struggle to finish top six. Either way they aren't going to get anybody from us without paying over the odds.

I suppose this is going to mean Liverpool bidding a fiver down and a pound a week trying to eke out their budget. Unless they are going to give Southampton their whole budget they won't be buying too many of our players. Probably haven't worked that out yet.

What I didn't realise was one of the main reasons for players not wanting to ask for a transfer is that when they sign contracts the signing on fee is paid in instalments each year. Lallana has 3 payments left and Shaw 4. If they don't ask for a transfer they receive the balance outstanding before leaving. If they hand in a transfer request they lose this plus bonuses etc. In my view we shouldn't negotiate with clubs like LFC and MU who are attempting to take players we would rather keep until the player has put in a written transfer request. We can always say no.

On the other hand it would certainly concentrate his mind if his local hero status was no more. However I sense Saints are more than ready to let him go at the right price.

Bill, I'd like to see him go, the fee is better than he is.

So we hire one that plays the way we do.

I personally think that if Adam and or Luke want to leave and the club are getting north of £60m for them plus Lambert and Osvaldo then fine. As long as the club bring in a good manager and significantly strengthen we can come out of this stronger than last year. I think maybe the time is right as long as the fees are right to revamp the side.

He posed the question to WS at MU match, either he or I posted it after. Pretty much in 379 & 400. He wasn't quoted as such.

On another thread, Adam's father posed the question, if the lad is offered European football and to double his money what would you do? That is the situation.

Lallana can want to leave but he needs to take on board LFC need to pay SFC valuation.

I suspect if the move is blocked the next step is to sign a new improved contract.

If a player is offered the chance to play in Europe and double his money it is very easy to wind him up if it looks like the move could be off. LFC and the LFC England players have this agenda and Hodgson needs to get a grip. If Adam get's too wrapped up in forcing a move he may well struggle. In the end it's up to SFC. Either way the BFC sell on isn't helping. Maybe BFC need to look at it as they might get nothing if we don't let him move.

It's important that SFC play hardball now so that the rest of the players see it's not just a case if wanting to go. They have stated their position now stick to it.

Bill, It may well be that Lallana was told that nobody was going until the new manager comes in and decides who he wants to keep. Therefore leading to reaction. I would have answered his call. It's the club's call. If they want to keep him it's up to them. He should have been asked how many more caps do you think you will get if there is a row and you aren't picked all season. He signed the five year contract and is well paid so he should honour that until LFC offer an acceptable fee. They are obviously stirring the pot and need a kick, Saints need to say LFC offers will not be considered if any more problems.

Forget it. If they want him buy him, another mythical option to buy. He is more use to us here than on loan.

You are absolutely right but we can look at Lambert, Lallana and Rodriguez as really good examples of players that score whatever league they are in. I think there are more around that can step up. Not cheap but not expensive either, Ings, Rhodes, Vokes for starters. We aren't going to replace Lambert with a clone as he is a one off as is Lallana but we can improve and strengthen by making us more incisive, a la Rodriguez up front.

Provided we buy decent replacements does anybody really think we can't 1) replace Lambert, Lallana, Shaw and Osvaldo (has to go) and 2) further strengthen the squad with more very good players if we receive in the region of £60m on top of any transfer budget already allocated. Whatever the strengths of these players they all had weaknesses that we have all moaned about. Up front we could add the pace we are missing. I would like to see all the present players except Osvaldo stay and add a number of players giving pace/goals in the front four, another CB, LB and GK. But personally I think nobody is irreplaceable. One caveat no more prima donna foreign stars that are over priced. I would prefer young British players in the mould of Caulker, Ings etc. so that we can foster the spirit already in the club. Alternatively value foreign players in the mould of Bony, Michu etc.

If Krueger now turns down any bids until we appoint a manager and then a decision is made to let AL and LS go for about £60m and keep the rest of the team, I think we could rectify the lack of pace up front and strengthen the side at the back and in goal and in the end be in a better place than last season with more depth. That doesn't mean I'm happy with the present apparent drift.

Andy, I think you have got Saint Charlie confused.

It didn't bother me too much at the time as the other stuff was positive but fell apart with MP going.

If Lambert has been talking to Liverpool for 5 months, **** him, pull the plug on the transfer. I felt he deserved the move but the more I think about it the more I'm sure this has been hatched in the England camp. Furthermore tell Liverpool they can forget signing any Saints players.

The problem may be Cortese micro-managed and nothing happened without his thumb print on it. If Krueger delegates without interference that is a polar change, it worked with Cortese and the players knew who was steering the ship, however they may not buy into the present apparent rudderless version.