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Herald

Four of us all renewed. It's the Saints FFS.

The value of a player is what he is worth to the seller especially if they don't want to sell. The bidder either pays up or ****es off.

I heard Adam say this week that he is only interested in following his dream playing for England in the world cup and not interested in speculation.

Lagos by a mile. BA had to take cash up to the tower before they would answer after giving initial clearance. Kota Bahru, before communists sorted we had to climb to 11000 over the sea to avoid being shot at. Easter Island no diversion so once aircraft inbound passed the point of no return the airport closed until that aircraft landed. Sumburgh over the head. Victoria Falls, had to reverse B757 with reverse thrust to park in cul de sac. Narsassuaq Greenland.

A couple of very good posts Bill. I'm prepared to wait and see, because firstly I have no choice and secondly as of yet what we are seeing is more fiction than fact and we just don't know what is happening. As most of the stories are media led, there doesn't seem to be much fact if any. I was told by you know who that the players are very happy under Pochettino but haven't a clue what is happening, he isn't impressed by Reed's statement and is less than complimentary about Krueger not being a football man. What does worry me, if that is Lallana's view there is a problem. The other worry I have, KL is is a multi billionaire so consequently lives in a bubble, Krueger is new to this and the people that he needs are a tyro CEO and the football man seen as weak and indecisive by YNW. I just hope this inactivity isn't them sitting on their hands.

Three weeks ago they put a statement out. A far as they are concerned if that is what they are doing there is no need to respond to media fiction. Last week, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Clyne, Chambers, Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Cork and Rodriguez were reported leaving. That in itself is just ridiculous rubbish. If any club takes one our players they will have their pants pulled down. When it is realised just how overpriced they are, the interest will evaporate.

Nasty piece of work, delivered a terrific result, stirring it up now when quiet stability is needed will destroy any goodwill. In the end is it going to be who cares what he thinks. BBC just wasting more money.

Adam has said he is only thinking of the World Cup and that is his dream. Sounds like his dad was right.

Maybe what's going on is just dithering by someone who is indecisive and needs a push in the right direction.

Somebody early on this thread seemed to have regulations that showed the VAT on transfer fees, even so 20% makes it even less attractive.

The mathematics alone probably destroy any chance of Lallana going. For a start the fee is less 25%, less 17.5% VAT, less agents fees, less contractual payments leaving Saints with about 50% of the offer net. So Liverpool have had a reported £20m offer worth £10m to Saints rejected, say now £25m offered, this only increases the net figure by about £2.5m. Saints are not going to even consider that. Lallana is now the Southampton figurehead, he is replaceable but not for those figures. He is probably going to cost Liverpool far more than he is worth if they want him that badly. £35m still only nets just over £18m. Bournemouth have shot themselves in the foot because it would only be if a fixed fee was negotiated that substantially increased Saints net return so a realistic valuation would work, Lallana could be sold and Bournemouth receive any money. Even then he is overpriced. Having said that, add Lovren into the equation and Liverpool's total budget is exceeded. If Saints decide to sell anybody, whoever buys them are going to have their pants pulled down.

Manchester City are saying that they can't afford to bring in English players as they cost too much. Lallana may be too expensive to go if 25% is added to what Saints want for him.

Weston was talking to his dad today for about 15 mins.

I think his sister lives in Liverpool.

It's a shame that the Lallana family don't have your sources.

No he isn't.

Except to get the best price and dictate when.

Aside from what his closest relative told myself and West Stand at the Everton game. What club would sell a player before the World Cup where his value could increase. Secondly why would we not stir up an auction if he was going to go, thirdly why would we sell him before strengthening and fourthly that 25% to Bournemouth is going to prove horrendously expensive for whoever wants him. This crap is more of the same.

Standard procedure but the same standards of surveillance don't apply to that part of the world. As for the arrests, probably a convenient time to get rid of trouble makers without awkward questions.

Shilton, Watson, Wright, O'Brien, Davies just to name a few.

As of Saturday. Very happy, hoping to go to Brazil, not counting on it, waiting until walking off pitch fit after last game. MP needs to be supported by enough to bring in significant players. Not about money, if squad improved, the players would be very happy. Reading between the lines if MP stays nobody would go. A problem could be if the people who need to do this vacillate and can't make their minds up about targets and we struggle to strengthen. Osvaldo needs to be moved on sooner rather than later. With their record I would have thought MP wouldn't touch Spurs with a barge pole.

Spurs did well with over a £100m last summer, didn't they?

Although we had two own goals, Gallagher was in great positions for both. The first if the defender hadn't got a touch Gallagher had a simple header, for the second he was on the far post and had an easy tap in if the header was missing the goal.

I was talking to a person yesterday that is as close as it gets to the players. It seems that the players are very happy at the club, love playing for Pochettino but are not that impressed by Reed's statement or regard him highly. If Pochettino stays it is unlikely there will be departures. The significant comment was made regarding Pochettino, that it wasn't about money, but about his ability to strengthen the squad. There also appears to be criticism amongst the players about the poor value of some expensive imports. Reading between the lines, more Lovrens and no more Osvaldos.