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Absolutely disgraceful. If it kept driving at the tank, then taking it out is fair game, but not when it's driving away.

Great to do between flat bench sets, especially in german volume training. 10 sets of 10 reps...flat bench, straight to supine rows 30 sets break. Repeat X 10. Anyways, I digress.

Yep. Or supine rows (an underrated excercise by the way).

Yep. And they're almost as annoying as the idiots who don't put their weights back, or drag a bench half across the other side of the gym and leave it there.

Thanks for the link Whelk. That's a really good, and thought provoking piece. There are few parts that I can't agree with, not the least the denial of the 1948 Nakba and his belief that the Israeli government seek to avoid Palestinian deaths. On the other side of the coin though, I'd forgotten about the 1993 suicide bombings - as much as the 7/10 attacks did not happen on a vacuum, that's a good reminder that some of the Israeli behaviour (and the overall mess) has not happened in a vacuum either. If anyone wants to read the article (I recommend reading it in full) it's here without a paywall. https://archive.ph/2023.10.28-061758/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/decolonization-narrative-dangerous-and-false/675799/

Thanks. That's a good, balanced read.

I couldn't get past the paywall. The author is of Jewish descent, so is it from an impartial perspective?

Ditto. Not been a fan of RM, but we were good today, really good. He picked the right team, and managed the game well. A good day.

I like how he puts defending first, and attacking second, but that's not to say that he doesn't get forward. We're so much more solid down the left with him there.

Very happy with that. Pleasing not to see Manning waltz back in too.

If it stopped the settlements that they determined were illegal we may not be where we are. They didn't though, and although I I agree they are powerless, the vote shows world opinion.

Ha!! "Leave it to the big boys boss, sit back with a cuppa and a slice of cake, and enjoy the ride".

That's a very reasoned post to be fair. He's here to stay, and hopefully we see progress.

You sound like RM. Nobody is "desperate to find fault with him". People can support the team without being a fan of the manager. You know that.

Indeed, nice to reflect on some of those players though. I can just imagine that front 3, in its prime, in this league.

Yep, but Israel have a duty to protect civilians. They can't bomb a houseful of innocent people because a few Hamas members have once had a chat in the kitchen, but they do. But yep, nowt we can do. I agree that they'll subdue Hamas short term, but they'll rebrand and every Palestinian of fighting age will be desperate to sign up and have a crack at Israel. Sad state of affairs. Anyways, it's football today, so that's me done on politics.

We could go around all day about the motive Whelk. If it really is (at least in part) to make Israel safer, this action will achieve the opposite.

There's no redlines according to Biden, so the sky's the limit for Israel, sadly. Interesting press release from the Israeli air force this morning. They said their "goal is clear - to destroy everything touched by the hand of Hamas". That's pretty much all of Gaza, and somewhat different to Hamas members and Hamas infrastructure.

Good shout! Jones KWP Dodd Bednarek Franny Tessem Downes Stu A MLT Pahars Beattie Not a bad side to be fair.

Irritating

Getting away from the flirting/COVID nonsense, it's gone from awful to hellish in Gaza. Ambulances can't be called, so the drivers are just driving toward the explosions (bigger than before - different weapons seemingly being used). Carnage. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67246761?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=653cb17f8ae7803bb6845422%26Bombardment in northern Gaza on 'a scale we've never seen before'%262023-10-28T07%3A01%3A06.139Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:12b3ca02-f9cf-4e4e-85d7-2f720e7b5fa7&pinned_post_asset_id=653cb17f8ae7803bb6845422&pinned_post_type=share

I'm not sure people are calling for change. I didn't want RM because his history told me that we'd get ploddy football and a team that can't defend. RM has delivered on that, unfortunately. As much as I'm sure that we'd do better with a better manager (exhibit A - Ipswich), I'd stick with him this season and see where we are in the summer. If it's this league, he has to go. If we scrape promotion (play offs realistically) then he'd probably deserve a chance to see how he goes, but this football as it's currently being played would get torn to shreds by any PL team. In the meantime, I hope that he realises that he's here to serve the club and the fans. In yesterday's presser he made it a lot about him. That attitude, and the ego driven 'I'd rather die doing it my way rather than try another way that may be better' attitude, is not helpful for us or him. When someone isn't even willing to acknowledge that there could be another way, the signs aren't great.

Yep...it seems to be a too much about him to him. We're interested in the team and results.

I'd be happy with that team, but I think there's a case for Fraser down the right, AA through the middle, and SA fighting it out with Charlie for a place on the middle. Hopefully we'll see THB back.